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‘I’m Not Looking For a Deal’: Trump Says EU Tariffs Staying At Fifty Percent

c/world · u/RandAlThor@lemmy.ca · 403 points

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u/LordWiggle@lemmy.world · 3 points

The wine may be good, but why import from another continent when we have France, Italy and Spain who produce loads of really good wine?

I wish you all the best in your fight against tyranny. Maybe go for Californian independence?

u/PTSDwarrior@lemmy.ml · 5 points

California wine is still good; hell, even the French use California wine to mix with theirs during a bad harvest. I'm on the verge of joining a California separatist party because this crisis will not end, and to cut off California from the rest of the world is cruel. Its cruel what the orange bastard is doing.

u/phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 2 points

Cash? Try gold or something like that. Maybe even just plain water, food and medicine

u/tartarin@lemm.ee · 27 points

Yeah, almost terrorism. They refuse to be my lackeys and lick my boots. They want to have a saying in world economy and enrich themselves and they aren't even American!

u/zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 40 points

Also the eu is sanctioning his bff, so he is retaliating on Putins behalf

u/Zealousideal_Fox_900@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 points

Concorde, with a special modification just for him that gives it a tendancy to fly directly into the atlantic/indian/pacific oceans, or into RFK JR's house.

u/barsoap@lemm.ee · 35 points

That's not big guns this is the big gun. Cutting the US off from our goods, capital and service markets, banning them from state contracts, suspending their intellectual property rights, such stuff. Annex 1 has the juicy bits.

Application would of course be targeted, e.g. hitting all of Peter Thiel's businesses at the same time.

u/sik0fewl@lemmy.ca · 15 points

I agree, but I think they are? I think every (traditional) western ally of the US are working back channels to no success. They're moving on and finding more reliable trading partners.

u/Soulg@ani.social · 1 points

Says Americans did it for me, regardless democrats can't do anything meaningful without the majority in a situation where Republicans are completely against any cooperation

u/atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 8 points

it didn’t surrender anything

It absolutely has. The he executive has literally no authority to impose tariffs - that's Congress' job. The executive has no authority to not spend money that Congress has appropriated - yet he is

These are easily blockable by Congress and should be in articles of impeachment.

Additionally Congress gave the president the ability to gain "temporary powers" during an "emergency" - and guess who gets to declare what constitutes an emergency? The president. And SCOTUS has blocked Congress from even being able to take it away without the president having a veto.

u/dubyakay@lemmy.ca · 0 points

you elected turnip

Canadians don't even vote for the Prime Minister of Canada. How would they have voted for the president of the US?

u/Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 28 points

it didn’t surrender anything, you elected turnip in a majority of all houses

the Republican Party now has a majority in both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

that’s damn near as much as saying go ahead do whatever you want as possible

u/Triasha@lemmy.world · 14 points

REPUBLICANS in Congress have abdicated their constitutional duties. A few Democrats are collaborating.

u/random_character_a@lemmy.world · 11 points

Democrats really can't do much and you might not realise how close US is to the situation where Trump starts calling people foreign agents or criminals and locking them up. You ever wonder why he's defying courts and clinging on to the ability to send people outside US judicial system.

u/Tja@programming.dev · 6 points

While shitting on democrats is fun, even if they 100% were all against it, it would make no difference. The American people made sure to give republicans a majority in all chambers, so what dems do is a small piece of trivia. Have the day you voted for!

u/Ledericas@lemm.ee · 6 points

8 Ds in the house has died this year alone. and no R has died as of yet. Ds dont have contigency replacements like the Rs do, they often do get rid of thier own most of the time before it gets worst.

u/catloaf@lemm.ee · 10 points

Not really. The US Constitution is a rather short document. This was by design, to only provide a bare framework for a government, to be amended over time. But that didn't really happen, and most work has been done in Congress and by SCOTUS after *Marbury v. Madison*.

You can read a whole bunch of info in articles like https://constitution.findlaw.com/article1/annotation03.html, but the tl;dr is that the Constitution says only Congress can make laws, but it can delegate some other authority. The section we're talking about here doesn't say it's a power exclusive to congress, no, but it says Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes, and Congress acts through law (literally, "acts of Congress"), so logically, taxes can only be set through Congressional law. And usually they are. But all the rules have gone out the window.

u/atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 5 points

Generally speaking if the Constitution doesn't say you have a power and explicitly does say somebody else does it means that you don't.

Though there are centuries of interpretations, laws, and norms that fill in the gaps that can make it more nuanced. It's difficult to take a straight reading of the text and apply it to an event.

u/RandAlThor@lemmy.ca · 58 points

Congress has surrendered its powers to Trump. Democrats in congress are sleeping on the job.

u/Windex007@lemmy.world · 6 points

Not a lawyer. Not an American.

But there must be more context, because by my read of this specific text it doesn't appear to be defined as a power EXCLUSIVE to Congress?

u/Windex007@lemmy.world · 1 points

Well well well

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-court-blocks-trumps-liberation-day-tariffs-2025-05-28/

u/andrew0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 points

You really think this is all him? Guy's got a full team running the media. The Heritage Foundation's got its grimy hands all over the country.

u/KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca · 15 points

I don't give him that much credit. The idiot runs around shitting his pants and making a mess 24 hours a day.

This isn't planned. Swimming in a diarrhea filled ocean is his natural environment.

u/shalafi@lemmy.world · 5 points

Never said he was as stupid as many others have said, especially when he was younger. (Yeah, average at best, and that's a left-handed insult.) But damn! Even in his dementia, the man got a talent for leading the narrative.

I started out saying, "Nah. He's not that smart to be distracting like that, just spewing his usual narcissistic shit in reaction to events." But after he's pulled this move 100 times, I'm a believer. Gotta admit, he's *damned* good at working the headlines.

u/boydster@sh.itjust.works · 33 points

Whenever he makes this announcement, expect there to be a flurry of buying activity in the US stock markets in the day (or even hours) immediately preceding

u/Gerudo@lemm.ee · 8 points

There will be no deal, he will just lower the tariff. However, he will claim a deal was made

Like he did with China.

u/kevin@programming.dev · 8 points

He's looking for a deal that is favorable to him. He will give the EU anything that the US can offer in exchange for personal profit and power.

u/joekar1990@lemmy.world · 6 points

He did just host his crypto dinner so who had his ear who was going to make boatloads of money on the EU tariffs?

u/ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 2 points

He's not insane though (he's not eating poop or giving away money), that's the point. He's just a c*nt who will burn in Hell because of his willful, aware, carefully planned amoral actions.

u/moody@lemmings.world · 36 points

He’s not unreasonable he’s just a dickhead

He is definitely both of those things.

u/Mihies@programming.dev · 6 points

That would work only for a short timespan, then somebody else will give him something or he'll have a shortcircuit in his two brain cells and we're back to square one.

u/Kickforce@lemmy.wtf · 5 points

He will do what you want, for about 5 minutes and then he'll hold out his hand for more and fuck you over anyway.

u/Wanderer@lemm.ee · 48 points

He's not unreasonable he's just a dickhead.

Give him money and he will do what you want, fuck anyone else or his country.

He is being completely reasonable if all he cares about is himself. He's just a dickhead.

u/DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 195 points

Good news. Whoever still thought it was still possible to get some slack by kissing Trump's ass are now fully caught up with the reality that he is an unreasonable prick.

Now the real decoupling of economies from the US can begin.

u/kescusay@lemmy.world · 91 points

Every headline like this should make clear that him imposing tariffs by fiat is illegal and unconstitutional.

I hate the fact that the media just reports that he's doing it without ever citing Article 1, Section 8:

The **Congress** shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Every one of these tariff manipulations has been 100% illegal, because the supposed emergencies he's using to excuse them are nonexistent.

u/Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works · 82 points

I'm so good at deals, I've made probably 200 deals, everyone wants to make a deal with me.

*A few weeks later*

I'm not trying to make a deal with anyone! 😭

u/Monument@lemmy.sdf.org · 79 points

My presumption is he’s throwing a fit because Greenland signed a mineral rights deal with the EU.

u/mriswith@lemmy.world · 59 points

Of course he doesn't want a deal, he wants bribes. It's *literally* a racket.

u/magic_lobster_party@fedia.io · 55 points

Next week he will brag about how he made a tremendous deal, and lower the tariffs as a result. What tremendous deal he made will be left unspecified, but Fox News will use this opportunity to report how great of a deal maker he is.

u/Species8472@discuss.tchncs.de · 43 points

Ok EU, time to bring out the big guns. Someone call Airbus for an obsolete A380 and tell him we will send it to him as a "gift". Big hands need the biggest possible aircraft.

u/eksyt@lemmy.ml · 38 points

The EU needs to give him the China treatment. Calm, sovereign, and let him rage in hus bubble. The EU is way too emotional and decomposed. Then again, the EU is fully dependent on US technology. Should be fun.

u/LordWiggle@lemmy.world · 27 points

I hope the official response will be harsh. Like China did. China called Donny's bluff until he folded. We EU should do the same. We don't need the US. Many of their products are of poor quality, like their cars(or a major safety hazard). Most of their food is considered toxic according to our food standards. Their booze is disgusting. Their online services are criminally evil.

u/Bieren@lemmy.world · 25 points

He’s not looking for a deal is correct. This is about market manipulation.

u/tburkhol@lemmy.world · 24 points

He made this announcement to give media something other than the "Big Beautiful Bill" to worry about this weekend.

u/gruentee@szmer.info · 19 points

I Hope that european Institutions and companies begin to use EU-tech. Like I don't unterstand why my uni uses Outlook, Office and Teams instead of FOSS

u/selkiesidhe@lemm.ee · 19 points

Not looking for a deal, looking for a grift. The stock markets will drop-- again-- and the rich parasites will gobble up more money. Then yam tits will claim victory while backing off like a little *removed*.

I'm not religious but I sure hope that hell exists just so these people go there...

u/Wazowski@lemmy.world · 18 points

All I know is that it's good to have cash for when the orange traitor decides to advance his boss' interests.

u/Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 11 points

Kick the AmeriKans where it hurts. We should stop buying US made weapons and tariff the fuck out of US digital services. It's their last bastion and increase trade with Canada and Mexico.

u/altphoto@lemmy.today · 4 points

Some people will have to start manufacturing stuff day in and day out like they used to do in the 50's.

u/andybytes@programming.dev · 1 points

Well, America's foreign policy for quite some time, depending on which president you want to refer to, was still to weaken Europe, to stop it from getting affordable natural gas from Russia. We are just lying to ourselves not acting like we're being aggressive to one of our allies. This is clearly a soft war against people that I'm pretty sure the public don't want to show aggression towards. So Orange Man Bad Sure, but we've been up to no good for a minute. The Neo-liberal era is over with. The pause button no longer works. We are approaching World War 3, where everybody's fighting everybody. We'll see climate disasters. More and more, our societies will become so corrupt with police officer gangs. And because everything is connected, every institution will mirror this very institution that's causing all of our problems. Top down governance with no room for finesse or ideas. Lowest common denominator thinking as we watch the exponential function ramp up at a particular period and blast right off the fucking charts. To the point where either the smaller curve is not observable or the chart is so big that we can't see the largest sector. FAFO poor breeders