US imposes a 17% duty on fresh Mexican tomatoes in hopes of boosting domestic production

that fills me with wrath, towards... grapes

The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit—and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains.

And the smell of rot fills the country.

The old cunt has probably never seen a tomato that hasn't already been mushed into the "sauce" he puts on his well done steak.

Feed ice to ICE.....you might actually be on to something.

At this point I have a difficult time trusting any tomatoes I don't grow myself.

Exactly the plan. Which is why private prisons have to be Bastille'd.

the world been working on that for decades and decades

have you tried adding more sun?

Oh, so growlamps!

Eh, won't beat LLM electricity bill anyway xD

Nope. Doesn't work that way at all. Hot soil can speed up tomatoes, but not fertilizer.

The prisoners from the concentration camps will be leased back to the farmers.

There are means to do this!

It's called...*lots and lots of artificial fertilizer...*

Probably, if RFK jr. gets his way with his health farms.

The farmers don’t pay a wage that covers housing and food in the United States.

The system is not profitable. People are not willing to pay the actual costs of food. They are happy to have a slave class however.

O'Biden? First the Irish claim Obama, now Biden 😄

Why would Obiden do this?

Don't worry, it won't be long before they stop deporting them and instead force them to work on farms as slave labor. Maybe with somr promise that work will make them free or something.

You know it was always one of the big points that got brought up in hypothetical WW3 scenarios that the US has enough food to support itself even if it went totally isolationist. Kind of incredible that they found a way to fuck up one of their greatest advantages.

don't worry, they'll blame someone else

The US is headed for a self-inflicted famine.

America gets what they voted for.

Are americans to good to work their own farms? What is it about americans that makes them incapable of manual labor?

Heh. You really should put your /S at the end. Some dumb readers may interpret this as serious.

Excuse me, we are american and we KNOW there is nothing left to learn about farming. We are already the best at it so take your mystical ideas somewhere else!

You definitely can grow year round. This is a tiny part of what is called "the plastic sea" in Almería, Spain. The climate is like Arizona, dry and hot. They grow year round by managing light, heat and water. Almeria is part of Europe's vegetable garden.

You can grow year round anywhere using greenhouses…

We must eliminate the strategic tomato gap, this communist threat cannot be allowed to stand unchecked. /S

Yes. Greenhouses add significant cost, that's my point.

environmental control or protection.

That's what they elsewhere call "greenhouse".

Given that tomatoes suffer when nighttime temperatures start going below 55°F (13°C), there is pretty much nowhere in the continental US where they can be grown successfully year-round without some sort of environmental control or protection.

Shipping from Mexico isn't very far, fyi. Mexico is closer to the entire southern and western US than those areas are to New England. To be clear, I support eating/buying local at every opportunity, but as international trading partners go, shipping from Mexico is about as efficient as can be.

Hydroponics and indoor farming add significant cost, also

They usually taste like water tho

We have them up north, on winter nights with low clouds, the sky appears orange.

What could it cost? 10$?

I'm excited for a banana grown right in Wisconsin 😋

Not a Trump fan, but year round tomatoes could actually be done. Regrettably barely anyone wants to invest in it. Indoor farming and hydroponics are a thing. They use less water and less/no pesticides. And they are great for “buy local” without having to ship them from another country. And you don’t have to pick them in the hot sun. So far I’ve seen lettuce and strawberries for sale in my local grocery that were grown this way.

The US has plenty of areas with a shitton of sun in the winter. Very dry areas, like southern Spain, or Israel, produce year round and with little available water, but well managed.

The Netherlands produce vegetables, competitive for export, with half the sun or heat.

Vegetables are one of the few sectors that can be repatriated in a short time through tariffs.

When you get into tree crops and such is when you have the same problem as with factories, years until production.

Its Roundup. If you're consuming stuff treated with Roundup you could end up with a contact allergy or cancer.

Organic farmers use pesticides.

Yup. Something in there reactivates my allergy.

Im sorry to hear that. Even on organic tomatoes?

Interesting, so is this just for domestic tomatoes or are there other veggies/fruit that you are allergic to?

Are all foreign tomatoes “safe” or are there other countries that use the same type of pesticides?

Thanks for the clarification. I figured there was something you could bet against, but forgot about futures. Appreciate it!

what's it called when you're shorting your children's futures

I can think of one way

Then the question is how do we get livable wages to whoever is working on farms.

The work isn’t the horrible torture, it’s the non-livable wages.

Its not a bad thing to allow highschool kids to experience real working conditions. Americans also need to see for themselves that working on a farm isn't the horrible torture everyone acts like it is.

The U.S. has been manipulated into this hellhole situation just like those raped thirteen year old girls - promises of nice things and candy.

America is to blame. Trump is simply a symptom of America's collective sickness.

Well yes and his little impotent chudd Miller

No, _Trump_ did this. ICE is his tool to do this, but make no mistake, Trump is to blame.

Jesus Christ this is the absolute dumbest time line....ice... ice did this

My old highschool now has the option for kids to opt out of PE instead you hop on the school bus and your 4 hour block is instead done on a local farm helping out.

So children mostly I would assume.

Nitpick: this would be shorting a future, not a stock.

Futures are typically “physical” goods like oil, bananas, cheese, maple syrup, etc. there are also other types of futures.

These commodities futures were originally created in the 1600s in Japan for rice, but they got their mass appeal in Chicago in the late 1800s.

The trading floors in Chicago are pretty cool and have a ton of interesting history.

And who will be working those farms? But I’m sure somebody in the administration figured a way to short a stock involving it, somehow

I can't wait to buy American tomatoes in the _fucking winter_, after the tomato growing season is over.

All while deporting as many farm workers as they can get their hands on. The US is headed for a self-inflicted famine.

Meanwhile tomatoes rot on the vine on U.S. farms because ICE has deported most workers and the rest are too frightened to show up. Plus, pay is far too low to actually attract American workers.

That’s some real 10-dimensional thinking, there.

... while at the same time raiding local farms

The best way for this regime to be stupider. is to stay awake for more hours

As ICE kills a man on a tomato farm in California

Who is going to grow them? Disabled people? Also, lots of luck speed growing tomatoes.

Tomatoes are already shit as we genetically modified them to be nice and round, blotch free. Same mods also removed the sugars and acids, which are the two things *that make a tomato a fucking tomato*.

Anyway, growing and harvesting tomatoes is a cold stone *removed*. I'm sure red-blooded Americans will be glad for the work! BTW, I'm in NW Florida. Even down here I can't grow year-round. Good luck with that.

Want people to eat more US tomatoes? Maybe try making them taste good instead of just growing the tomato equivalent of iceberg lettuce because it keeps for weeks and "looks good"

Does he think the tomatoes are made like in the factory or something? Does he understand that it takes time to grow tomatoes?

Ok.... What field do i have to go to so i can harvest them myself... Since there is no one to harvest them for me?

American tomatoes would probably be smeared in e coli. Be careful out there my US friends.

mean while kicking farmers out? good luck

How fast do these idiots think the tomatoes grow anyway?

Except I'm allergic thanks to the pesticides used here.

This is gonna go well

You just know magas put real effort into being this stupid.

Well I guess it's time to just not eat tomatoes during the off season.

I didn't know US was a net producer of tomatoes.

Make tomato’s great again!

At least he learned that tariffing all the products, including those which you can’t produce domestically, is not the brightest idea