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He told a joke about how a former Israeli soldier from the 8207 battalion was eaten by a shark. “The shark swam past Israeli children, but it didn’t hit the children,” Schirtzer said in the video. “So even a shark can tell the difference between a child and a soldier.”
lol
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That may be true, but it doesn't excuse the list at all.
My country is responsible for the majority of international violence since WWII. I find that morally unacceptable.
I make posts like this because I want my country to *do better*. But the sad reality is we have yet to learn our lesson. We have been aiding and abetting an ongoing Holocaust for almost two years now.
-3 points ·
My best guess is that the Chinese government will admit fault long into the future, when most of the accountability and backlash has already faded into history.
Which is no different than how the US has handled many of the atrocities I mentioned.
When will the US acknowledge and release info on the 100s of Yemeni and Pakistani civilian targets that were destroyed by drone strike? When will the US release the warcrimes reports from the War on Terror? Does the US even still have these warcrimes reports, or were they destroyed (as whistleblowers and Amnesty International have suggested they were)?
If you can't answer questions like these without resorting to cries of "Whataboutism", then fuck off hypocrite.
8 points ·
Your comment ignores the context that the US is doing anti-Chinese propaganda here, and there is no parity.
Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, and China was releasing PR statements on every anniversary of every US atrocity. They would still be issuing multiple statements every day.
-1 points ·
The "pressure on the cultural zeitgeist" you speak of is just "shoot, then cry". The victims are forgotten.
2 points ·
Yep that's exactly my point, the US is doing Whataboutism when it issues these PR stunts to condemn Chinese atrocities.
4 points ·
I agree that declassification is a great thing, but it is not so black and white. Not all info becomes declassified eventually, so much is covered up and destroyed.
For example, much is known about the My Lai massacre in the Vietnam War. Most of this information is known due to declassified documents. But these declassified documents also mention that there were over 100 My Lai-level massacres that occured, most of which we know nothing about. Army Chief of Staff Westmoreland was quoted saying we do a "My Lai each month".
One of the largest, codenamed Speedy Express, reportedly killed 11,000 people, and was covered up at the highest levels.
5 points ·
It is not my intention to give other countries a pass. Indonesia is guilty of genocide in the case of East Timor; the US is guilty as well.
The genocide in East Timor is analogous to the ongoing genocide in Palestine.
Both genocides are not conducted by US personnel, but the majority of arms are supplied by the US. The US gives international legitimacy to the genocidal party, while running defense for it's atrocities. The genocide in East Timor was ended by a phone call from the US president, and I am of the firm belief that the genocide in Gaza could be ended by a similar call. Previous Israeli atrocities were ended by calls from Reagan and Bush Sr.
123 points ·
As an American I think it's helpful to put this into some sort of perspective.
Things the US won't forget:
Things the US will forget:
This list could be *so much* longer, but I gotta get to work.
4 points ·
Yes, the current president is supporting genocide.
You don't hear anyone on the left yelling about it? Maybe you should pay attention, protest movements are ongoing. Protest tactics and media coverage may change in the Trump era, but the anti-genocide movement is still strong in my opinion.
If you want to make some sort of political point then you should come out and say it. Hiding behind sarcasm is off putting when discussing a serious subject like genocide. Its almost like you don't actually care.
5 points ·
Yes, the lie that Biden was pushing for a ceasefire gave him tons of political cover. It was one of his administration's primary Gaza talking points. They used this lie to deflect against valid criticism for months.
Even AOC fell for the lie, saying Harris was working tirelessly for a ceasefire in Gaza
5 points ·
No, Gaza is still being bombed. Children are being intentionally starved. It's still a crisis.
13 points ·
Probably discussing the latest news about how Biden never pressured Israel for ceasefire
It was just another lie to give political cover as he aided and abetted an ongoing genocide.
62 points ·
It's not wasted at all, this is textbook Shock Doctrine (Naomi Klein, 2007). This is Steve Bannons's "flood the zone" strategy that Trump is currently following.
The lies will be believed by dedicated Zionists. Paid Hasbara trolls will be repeating these lies forever.
For most news consumers, the story will come across muddled, confused, and open to personal interpretation. From their low-information perspective, a conclusion of "both sides" seems reasonable.
And for those who are paying attention and have a strong sense of morality, this will be one more battle we will have to repeatedly fight. We will have to expend time and energy to fight this lie, and it is just one of many.
49 points ·
Americans see protest as pointless right now.
Americans have seen a generation of peaceful protests that were crushed and villified. Anti-WTO, Anti-Iraq War, Occupy Wall Street, George Floyd, etc; all failed to achieve any of their stated goals.
And now that the fascists have taken control, peaceful protest is even less effective. For peaceful protest to succeed your opponent must have empathy, and fascists have none.
The last protest movement that accomplished something substantial was the civil rights movement. It was not peaceful, it was militant. I think we need a modern Black Panther Party.
0 points ·
What's the point of having Democrats when they just act like Republicans anyway?