Israel will not stop war until Palestinians displaced from Gaza and Syria partitioned, minister says

I'm referring more to the behaviour of the Israelis mirroring the behaviour of the colonists. Deliberately pushing out the natives, leading to the natives fighting back, leading to the colonists using overwhelming force in 'self defence', leading to more colonists pushing out the natives.

Take the settlements in the West Bank for example. The settlers show up, build their houses, kick out the local Palestinians and treat them like shit. The Palestinians retaliate, so the settlers call in the IDF to kill the Palestinians. The US colonists did the exact same thing, and even went to war with Britain (at least partially) because Britain demanded that they not push west of the Appalachians because it was (to the British), native territory. Granted Spain had also stolen a load of land to the west, effectively sandwiching the natives between two colonial powers, but Britain had just got out of the Seven Years War (instigated by the colonists) and wasn't keen to get back into one.

I was thinking the other day, and this is a bit off topic but:

Can you imagine what the colonists and “America” would have done to the indigenous people if they had the same tools as the Nazis?

America, Hitler’s little poster child.

Not gonna lie. The analogy of native americans vs palestinians doesnt click for me. There were jews christians muslims living in relative peace before the plan of an israel was shoved down people throats in the region. This wasnt a new big island discovered by accident.

I would agree though that human life is equally important and displacing humans forcefully is always a terrible crime if this is what the analogy implies.

I think y'all are reading too much into a knee-jerk comment from Auli... The point is that Jewish people, *also being people*, are unfortunately capable of just as much hate and devastation as any others.

Rest of humanity? Which other country successfully carried out a genocide recently?

I've seen plenty of anti-government protests from Israelis that do not approve

But the nation isn't stopping him. He's been voted in how many times. It isn't like the people have no blame.

Sure, the decisions are made, the policies enacted, by those at the top — but there is no widespread repudiation of their actions by the citizenry at large, either.

I refuse to take anyone’s side that murders innocent people. Children should NEVER be victims of political wars. When politicians that make these decisions put their own children in the line of fire, then tell me “I should really take a side”.

So you should really have a side by now.

No.

It isn't a defense at all. You said you didn't understand. Abused people (or peoples) becoming abusive in turn is a common process, and that phrase is commonly used in such a way that searching on it will reveal many studies of the process, and what has been tried (successfully and unsuccessfully) to short-circuit it.

Understanding is not absolution, though. You can both see how the genocide of Jews led to fears, politics, and colonial interventions that contributed to Israel's genocide of Palestinians, and also condemn that genocide and those perpetrating it (which I *absolutely* do). But not understanding the motivations makes any problem easier to effectively resist or solve, as you can use that knowledge to determine where and how to apply pressure and create a lasting rather than a temporary change.

So is this an argument for Hamas or Israel.

Zionism predates the holocaus and modern fascism.

A yes, a final solution. Nazis love those, and most nazis were indeed zionists.

I'm Jewish and I don't get it either, every Jew I see falling for this fascist rhetoric horrifies and disgusts me

Focus in, this the action of a handful of powerful and violent people, not the act of a whole nation with a subjugated past.

The people enacting these atrocities are just as much monsters and the people who oppressed their ancestors.

I really don’t have a side politically. I just don’t understand.

you should really have a side by now.

How can you see this genocide unfolding, ethnic cleansing at a minimum of you're scared if using the G word, and still say "Well, I don't really want to take a side here"

This kind of rhetoric enables these war crimes. You've outlined yourself what Israel is doing, and they're going to continue because the western governments aren't doing anything real about it.

The least we can do as individuals is call them out on their bullshit and remind others around us that the genocide they're committing is entirely fucked up and unjustifiable.

did horrible things to their children (especially twins),

No they only did that to gypsies.

This is about colonialism not religion

My guess is that they believe leaving the Hamas alive is equivalent to allowing their territory be attacked again in the future. They want this war to be The Last One™ so thay don't have to further spend military resourses in the future doing the same thing again.

Hurt people hurt people.

OMG they're just as horrible as the rest of humanity. Who would have thought.

What a terrible reply to get blocked over

Good to see "helped" instead of assigned blame. I'll take it.

This is it. Why the fuck is the blame on the people who didn’t vote for a terrible candidate supporting a genocide and not the _fucking people supporting the genocide?!_ Why did the dems _all_ support that censorship bill, when they were initially speaking up about it? Why does it seem like the more exhausted he populace got with trump and his shit, he more democrats seemed to use that as an excuse to start supporting the republicans? Where is all the “stop trump” and “stop fascism” dems now? Why does it seem like they’re done grandstanding about standing up to trump and seem to have rolled over to keep their jobs or whatever it is? Why does this seem all okay, and why is the blame for all of that on people who couldn’t stomach supporting a candidate that was not standing up to a genocide and was parading around the fucking worst of the neocons? Why is it always on the people who didn’t sacrifice their values to once again stomach a candidate that goes against their basic human morals, and not on the politicians continually moving to the right? Why blame the people who see the rightward march of the Democratic Party as a death knell for the country, and not on the people who are fucking marching right as fast as the fascists continue to radicalize? Why the fuck can these assholes not see that we don’t give a shit that you think you’re morally superior to us because you “voted against fascism,” when the party you voted for seems to be actively ushering fascism in through the door?

Where is the fucking class solidarity? These people are selling you out, and you turn to your neighbor to say, “well, you should’ve just voted differently.” We are well beyond this being on us. This is on the people driving the ship, not the ones stuck in the cargo hold screaming that we’re fucking sinking.

Eating ~~popcorn~~ the shit sandwich they helped create. Fixed that for you.

Cool! People use that as an expression of exasperation.

Other countries were waiting for the new administration, since that would signal what our stance was going to be for the next 4 years. It's true that Trump doesn't care about Gaza, but he certainly would like to raze it and build some hotels. At the same time, people stateside might like to protest, but more and more are afraid of being whisked away by plainclothes nobodies to El Salvador. It is possible to say that Harris would not have done a better job stopping the genocide and also that she was still the correct answer.

You and I and millions, I'm sure. But not enough. Even now, as the things he promised he would do come to fruition, people are still just... numb to it.

Hello! I realized I was looking at a different comment chain, which made me think that.

Now:

Basically, what I think needed to happen is a) Harris wins narrowly, and b) we take the energy that people are just now starting to cultivate under Trump (i.e. as he does everything he promised to do and more, for the benefit of seemingly no one but him) and protest because *Harris wasn't good enough*. Americans cannot keep living in a world where every presidential election is life and death, because that guarantees fascism. The only good thing about what's going on right now is that leopards' faces are being eaten.

I did not want Harris because she wasn't a good enough candidate. Plain as. She was the better of the two candidates we have, but that's simply not good enough anymore. It hasn't been for what, four of the last five election cycles? We need more than two viable candidates (end FPTP), a fragmenting of parties (suicide while FPTP is active), and/or people to wake the fuck up.

You right! I think I was reading someone else's comment.

I voted for Harris

Could this be any clearer?

I honestly don’t know anymore what to do with this blue MAGA bs. You can say that you ate Harris out while voting for her but you don’t agree with her pro genocide stance and because you said one critical word they’d still tell you that you made Trump happen somehow?

So, nothing then, because they didn't do that; they explicitly said, right at the start, that they voted Harris.

~~Decided that abstaining and allowing Trump to be elected was somehow going to help us get more left-leaning politicians?~~

Blinken tried to organize for other countries to allow Israel to ethnically cleanse Gaza and those countries to take in the Palestinians in Nov 2023. Then the other countries said "No". The Trump plans of this year arent fundamentally different. They are the same plans as the Democrats under Biden had. Just that Trump is louder about it.

I will **remind** any Democratic supporters of Israel that Israel is in league with Trump. I will not allow them to forget it.

I am most decidedly anti-Israel but voted for Harris due to the dozens of other issues that were different between the 2 candidates.

What did they do that you consider 'fucking up'?

I'm neither a man nor a Christian tho.

That isn't both-sidesing.

I said that Harris was clearly better overall. I have a preference and I acted on it, which is the opposite of what both-sidesing is trying to achieve.

However, on the particular issue of genocide in Gaza, I only see differences in rhetoric, not differences in behavior.

Doing the both sides thing won’t help here. It distracts from the real problem.

My brother in Christ. Israeli officials were literally waiting for Trump to get elected. ~~They KNEW people like you were going to hand them the Gaza Strip. Acknowledge that you fucked up and move on with the rest of us~~.

I consider it insult to say I agree with either of our 2 parties on 50% of the issues. Almost all of both of their policy positions are derivations on "how will this metastasize the capital markets faster" and not "how will this improve the wellbeing of the citizens of society, preferably at the expense/taxation of the capital markets *that we kindly permit to profit off of society at all* so long as they don't undermine said society to increase their profits"

Both parties would be lighting themselves on fire to prevent the latter. The tail has been wagging the dog for a long time, the fucking profoundly perverse servitude of a society to an economy. It obviously needs to be the other way around or... Well this.

You just had a full back and forth with sarcasm and came away despondent.

I think the hope is that Democrats will see Israel as being in league with Trump and stop supporting them. Of course given how costly losing this election was, such a strategy would be a Pyrrhic victory even if it were successful. Which is doubtful, given that I view the Democrats as "controlled opposition".

I see — As long as the democrats suffer, it justifies the actual genocide that will take place on account of their decision.

It’s good to see the left punishing people who agree with them on 50% of things over people who agree with them on 0% of things. That is a recipe for success. Go team.

Nobody said otherwise.

The U.S. gov is making sure that no one intervenes and stops them. They are a very direct accomplice.

Without U.S. cover, Israel would get their shit pushed in.

With weapons from multiple other countries who keep resupplying them or giving other political cover to prevent consequences to Israel committing genocide and other preemptive attacks

Question: do you honestly think Joe Biden would have permitted the removal of all Palestinians from Gaza?

We dont have to wonder. Biden proposed moving the Palestinians to Egypt, at Netenyahus suggestion. Egypt rejected the idea and warned it would shut down relations with Israel if they tried, and then Israel backtracked saying they would never have allowed it anyway because it might permit "terrorists" to return and attack someday.

https://reason.com/2025/01/27/trump-revives-bidens-failed-proposal-to-remove-palestinians-from-gaza/

"You say I deserve Trump… like I’m the one suffering here."

If you're American and not ultra-wealthy you are/will be, just like I will.

"Question: do you honestly think Joe Biden would have permitted the removal of all Palestinians from Gaza?"

Yes. Just as he was perfectly fine with them bombing everything from hospitals to schools usimg the weapons he continues to send and using genocidal rhetoric. You would have to be insane to think otherwise.

"Would that even be a conversation right now?"

No. It would just be another day of Joe Biden and the Democrats enabling the genocide while "liberals" sit by and let it happen and calling anyone who opposed it a crazy radical. Just like it was during the year long genocidal campaign he DID engage in.

"I’m not the one suffering the brunt of consequences for your the decision to elect Trump over Biden, it’s the Palestinian people who are."

This is the same blatant denialism of Genocide because Joe Biden was the one doing it I just critiqued.

The Israelis are the one's actually murdering people

There they are!

You say I deserve Trump… like I’m the one suffering here. Question: do you honestly think Joe Biden would have permitted the removal of all Palestinians from Gaza? Would that even be a conversation right now? How about turning Gaza into a real estate opportunity for the sitting president?

I’m not the one suffering the brunt of consequences for your decision to elect Trump over Biden, it’s the Palestinian people who are. All of you made a choice based on principles that you don’t have the political power to support, and the result is one that is far worse for the actual people affected. That makes the choice morally inferior. And, it’s a shame to see what is happening to the people impacted by it.

>the rest of us have to live with the consequences of your actions.

What makes you worthy of consideration that **you** wont give to other innocents being starved and blown up with our own tax-purchased bombs? Are you supposed to be special to me because you live closer or have whiter skin or something? Well you're not.

Kamala whose husband is a promiment zionist, campaign manager was a zionist, and who could never formulate and articulate a single policy position on her own in any of her campaign runs? That Kamala? You're just huffing hopium. Yes, and maybe aliens would land and help us out too. I mean come on.

While we are proposing far fetched nonsense possibilities that go against what the candidates said they'd do: Did you consider that Trumps well documented anti semitism would give an even better result than Kamala?

This is some copium. Genocide apologizing copium. Not exactly something I’d want to be carrying around. Do better

It is very very hard to predict who is going to win even when elections that aren't all that close. Asking people how they would behave especially people who didn't even bother to vote is fraught. People who aren't happy about something are apt to say they would do something about it but they showed more about how motivated they are by not even bothering to show up in actual reality. I think anyone who tells you if you did this they would have voted for you is quite frankly full of shit.

White people voted for Trump because they believed they would be privileged.

Men voted for him because they believed they would be privileged.

Conservatives voted for him because he would appoint conservative judges

Financially ignorant people voted for him because he would cut their taxes and encourage business.

Republican's voted for him because him being a Republican was far more important than any other factor.

Most people who call themselves independent flatter themselves by saying so and in fact vote Red or Blue 95-99% of the time. Those who lean red were never going to vote for a non-white women running under the blue ticket.

None of these factors had anything to do with Israel or Gaza. People in America are selfish and self centered they were never going to vote differently based on Gaza.

That's why it's important to consider how the questions are framed, not disregard polling. And no, the polling methodology used is not wildly inaccurate, what a baseless claim to try to disregard the actual articles.

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Polls have been close not only wildly inaccurate but so incredibly spread out that you could find a few to support literally anyone position after the fact.

Its absolutely clear. If Harris had acknowledging the genocide about 2 weeks before the election would have won over youth, the left, and muslims, which is a vastly larger voting group than the 80% of jewish people who support israel-- or even all jewish voters. Jewish voters are a tiny group-- even just muslim voters are a larger group. Jewish voters arent a compelling voter group, they are a compelling funding group.

But two weeks before the election Harris could have weathered the funding downturn. Her husband would have left her, but no great loss there. Harris could have won.

It's not clear the alternative strategy would have helped AT ALL. A very large portion of Americans actually believed that Trump would either help the economy or help the position of white folks and Christians. Everything else was a side show. That is why they elected him. Things were going pretty good economically before the pandemic and white Christians. That is why we elected essentially Hitler because we are stupid bigots.

And they lost with that strategy. So their thinking was clearly wrong, unless they planned to lose.

They were actually for genocide. That's why they partook in an ongoing genocide for over a year. Your entire premise is wrong.

I think the thinking was that turning against Israel more publicly would have mostly garnered more entirely worthless votes in states that are already blue and risked losing at risk rust belt states

That's just not true though. It would have helped across the board but _especially_ in critical swing states

Here Are 34 Polls That Show A Ceasefire & Weapons Embargo Help Kamala Win

Kamala Would Have Won With A Weapons Embargo

The blame is entirely on the campaign for chosing to ignore and even go against those voters instead of make concessions to gain as much votes as possible. They chose to prioritize continuing the genocide over winning against Trump.

I think the thinking was that turning against Israel more publicly would have mostly garnered more entirely worthless votes in states that are already blue and risked losing at risk rust belt states.

If those voters would have been a bit smarter they could have threatened to stay home but actually voted against fascism then continued to petition the incoming regime which unlike Trump isn't actually for genocide. Now there is a good chance for most of those folks you want to save being dead when its possible to reverse course IF its possible to reverse course and we don't have a canceled election and a civil war thereafter.

in the grand scheme of voting issues, foreign policy isnt on voters top priority(maybe for michiganers, and whitmers wierdly hanging out with trump awful lot lately), is domestic issues unfortunately. every president had support israel and never once was it the forefront as election issue, until trump wanted to be in power again the MSM started to post pro-israeli propaganda through the airwaves, plus russia early on was fueling the "i am not voting dems for the first ime over this" protests.

It's not disinformation that Joe Biden enabled and aided the Genocide of Palestinians. Trump doing the same doesn't rewrite history.

Kamala could have gotten all those voters if she just took a stand against genocide.

Yes, the lie that Biden was pushing for a ceasefire gave him tons of political cover. It was one of his administration's primary Gaza talking points. They used this lie to deflect against valid criticism for months.

Even AOC fell for the lie, saying Harris was working tirelessly for a ceasefire in Gaza

I think the word is sarcastic

tf? you are the one using this to aire a political grievance.

Dude you're either thinking emotionally or being disingenuous. Take a step back.

Yes, the current president is supporting genocide.

You don't hear anyone on the left yelling about it? Maybe you should pay attention, protest movements are ongoing. Protest tactics and media coverage may change in the Trump era, but the anti-genocide movement is still strong in my opinion.

If you want to make some sort of political point then you should come out and say it. Hiding behind sarcasm is off putting when discussing a serious subject like genocide. Its almost like you don't actually care.

We are yelling about it, you aren't listening because you don't actually care and are trying to use this as a "gotcha"

So you’re saying the current president is supporting Genocide? It’s weird, I don’t hear anyone on the left yelling about it. It’s almost like they don’t actually care.

No, Gaza is still being bombed. Children are being intentionally starved. It's still a crisis.

Well, at least Joe is out of power, now. Phew! Crisis averted.

Yeah dude, Biden totally got "political cover" about Gaza.

Eating popcorn. Where are the dems who will fight for their constituents now?

Looks like they just nearly unanimously passed a law that will let the administration take down any web content the want, not just revenge porn or deepfakes like they claimed.

So thats the end of free speech. Trump said outright he'd use it to censor his oponents.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/04/congress-passes-take-it-down-act-despite-major-flaws

Did the dems just not have time for ammendments?

So was all this trumpery worth it all so the DNC could continue to take AIPAC money?

Or the Laken Riley act passed with dem support.

https://rollcall.com/2025/01/20/democrats-senate-laken-riley-act/

We're deporting anyone now, with democratic party support. They are even trying to use it on citizens. Heck of a job, DNC.

Or when the dems voted to advance trumps budget-- about the only card they had in their hand right now, and they just didnt use it.

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-democrats-voted-trump-gop-spending-bill-2045209

And now you want to what, fingerwag like you have a leg to stand on here? I mean come on man. Show me proof beyond Booker sitting on the steps in theatrical protest that the dems are working some angle thats not just secret support of anything the republicans want?

I guess at least Schumer, who says his whole job is to keep the dems supporting Israel, sent a "very strong letter" to trump. So we have that going for us.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pathetic-critics-cringe-leading-dem-191116497.html

Yay Schumer, way to go.

I voted for Harris, and voted for Biden before that, and Clinton before that. With shame as I should. Harm reduction, methadone instead of heroin.

It's nothing to brag about. You guys try to make them sound like a good choice, when neoliberals are for the same status quo, only minus the scapegoating. They're just a lesser degree of bad. They're for mass homelessness, they're for entire murder for profit economic sectors including American "Healthcare," they're for ever worsening income inequity, because on economic policy (that informs and often dictates social Ills) they're on the same take as Republicans. Just because they don't cheer and pour the blood they're drenched in over their heads in celebration like Gatorade, doesn't mean their hands are any cleaner.

That scapegoating makes Republicans worth voting against, but you're praising Jack the Ripper in the face of Adolf Hitler. No American should feel anything but shame about only having a extreme right wing party and a fascist party as our only two options. No one should have left an American polling place with a smile or pride for the last half century, it's been a rocketship to avarice diseased oblivion, that Trumpism is just a newer symptom of, not the cause.

Reagan toppled this empire, it just takes an empire a while to hit the ground. We have arrived at a while. Trump is more of a vulture come to feast on the corpse.

I voted for Harris.

But can you explain exactly how things would have gone differently in Gaza other than the rhetoric if Harris had won? She was all in on the genocide just like Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, etc.

Just because Harris was clearly the better choice overall doesn't mean she (and Biden) wasn't and isn't dead wrong about their fealty to Netanyahu.

Probably discussing the latest news about how Biden never pressured Israel for ceasefire

It was just another lie to give political cover as he aided and abetted an ongoing genocide.

Not supporting Genocide Donald.

You say this like Biden was bringing an end to the Genocide.

Trump partaking in Genocide doesn't mean Biden didn't. It was just publicly revealed that Biden never demanded a ceasefire (as if we didn't know that already), Biden sent weapons to Israel to use in their genocidal campaign, Biden sent warships to ward off and defend against any attacks against Israel for their genocidal campaign. Trump doing the same doesn't mean Biden didn't do those things.

You so smugly using Trump's continuation of the genocide as a form of "gotcha" (again, as if we didn't know he would do that) is truly just absolutely morally gross and despicabe.

You deserve Trump.

If you can’t stand up against actively supporting an open genocide, you aren’t going to stand up for democracy.

America has been cooked. And yes, Biden is/was complacent

Surely thrilled that they were able to punish Democrats

They all realize they were part of a targeted disinformation campaign and regret their life choices.

Tbf though, Kamala could have gotten 4% of inactive voters in 3 key states she could have won. Instead those voters stayed home and now we've got front row seats to the end of an empire

Right here :)

I voted for Kamala tho

not being pushed by russian and israeli propaganda through SOCIAL media perhaps.

I hope your terrorist leaders harris, biden and trump all die lioe fucking pigs.

You mean Schrodinger's Leftists?

Here we go with the finger-wagging, you'll never learn do you

Do you think they have the self awareness to even reply to a thread like this?

Gone.

Their man, Trump, got elected, so they don't need to exist anymore.

yep. Its been the same war for the last ~80 years.

“We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai.”

David Ben-Gurion May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, a Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

“It’s not a matter of maintaining the status quo. We have to create a dynamic state, oriented towards expansion.” –Ben Gurion

Partition: “after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine “

— Ben Gurion, p.22 “The Birth of Israel, 1987” Simha Flapan.

On the 6th of February 1948, during a Mapai Party Council, Ben-Gurion responded to a remark from a member of the audience that “we have no land there” [in the hills and mountains west of Jerusalem] by saying: “The war will give us the land. The concepts of “ours” and “not ours” are peace concepts, only, and in war they lose their whole meaning”

(Ben-Gurion, War Diary, Vol. 1, entry dated 6 February 1948. p.211)

Always have been.

Wouldn't even have a list. The one anti-zionist in the Knesset, Over Cassif, has been repeatedly suspended. Not that one voice in a sea of genocidal voices is any real power to begin with, of course

Easier to list who doesn't want ethic cleansing with those in power

and thier use of AIPAC to fund politicians and donors in the states, have largely quashed university protests agains tthem.

And blackmailing germany :(

Israeliz are the terrorists with nukes in the area, it's uncanny how they keep flinging accusations and throwing American weaponry at everyone that doesn't like their land grabs

Smotrich is a horrible person. He and Ben Gvir want ethnic cleansing.

Thanks, I appreciate the sources.

Well, see, Syria has land they want and people they don’t.

They don't own it yet

Their beef is that Syria is actually Israel, just like Palestine, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, etc.

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel

• https://mepei.com/greater-israel-an-ongoing-expansion-plan-for-the-middle-east-and-north-africa/

Syria is next.

Tbh the real-world cruelty overcomes any joke. There's nothing humorous about wanting to wipe millions of people off the face of the Earth just because someone doesn't want them there. Fuck the Israeli government. Besides, the *room* was empty when I commented.

I think it’s ~~funny~~ darkly humorous but read the room, dude.

The mean genocided.

Oof...

Not bad, but this is the sort of crass dark humor I would expect late on a Friday night after at least five beers with my friends.

Oh fuck off.

Time and place.

That’s a bingo.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution

I believe their comment was in reference to this.

So basically, yes. Kill everyone they can.

Israel already won against their neighbors and Iran in this war.

The main impediment to Israeli military operations are morale and manpower of the soldiers. Reservists aren’t showing up as they used to. They are tired, some opposed to the war.

The reservists serving had their lives on hold and their businesses fail. It’s not sustainable. It’s impacting the economy as well.

The IDF is overextended or will be soon. It’s a people‘s army with everyone serving. Refusal to serve has forced political change before.

Netanyahu isn’t secure in his power either. If the Shin Bet and army don’t agree with his policies, a government crisis is possible. Elections are expected over the next year as well.

Probably provoke every neighbor until it's a big active conflict in the entire region and then say they're the only one capable of "maintaining peace" aka kill everybody so better start sending weapons.

Yeah but they seem to have very big goals. At some point the sanction situation will change.

Few countries have sanctions against Israel.

Most of Europe and India are on good terms.

They already can't, with Papa America shielding them and funneling them billions of dollars in equipment and funding.

Yeah, they’re still working on their final solution to this.

Rome conquered the world in a war of 'self defense'.

They intend to expand a lot and be as globally independent as possible so they cant be punished for their crimes with trade sanctions.

i know they cut the quote short:

...our hostages are returned, some to their homes and some to the graves of Israel

i mean why do that

why stop there?

I think Israel will not stop the war until its forced to do so.

Cant wait to see the response of the "its just against the terrorists" crowd

Just openly saying you want genocide. As you do.

Where is the “I won’t support Genocide Joe” crowd now?

"Greater Israel" is not just about murdering palestinians, but more generally stealing all of the middle east.

https://mepei.com/greater-israel-an-ongoing-expansion-plan-for-the-middle-east-and-north-africa/

It wil not stop war at all, because Bibi needs wartome mandate to stay out of jail

Fascists gonna fash.

Sounds familiar. No wonder the Americans love Israel, they're basically carbon copies of eachother. What America did to the Native Americans, the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians. Push 'em out, keep pushing until they get violent, use the violence as an excuse to keep pushing, rinse and repeat until they're all dead.

What's their beef with Syria still?

Time to nuke Israel.

Lebensraum

Until some military rolls up on the border and demands at gunpoint that Israel stop starving, murdering and stealing from people they dont like, the Israelis will keep doing it. They want Syria, Lebanan, Jordan, and Egypt after they finish off the west bank and Gaza.

“We didn’t bomb these people out of their homes only to have them return.”

—Israel

Genocide will continue until morale improves.

Pretty sure they mean 'formatted'