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I wish they would keep on failing.

Kinda surprised you didnt need the /s

Being the best socialist dictatorship doent mean anything if its still much worse than most social democracies

And eastern Germany was a shithole, so how is that supposed to be an argument?

Funding by who? God? Certainly not all the other democracies that just so happen to work well.

But seriously, if a system works so well that it can support multiple countries with the resources of a single one, thats an even better argument.

Hungarian nationalism/patriotism is so fucked up. They are straight brainwashed into believing they are a superior race above all other peoples.\

"Our language is the oldest inhuman history"\

"This country used to be 10 times its size, they stole it from us"\

"in Asia kids learn in school that theyre descendants of Hungarians"

Actual quotes from my hungarian family. Truly alarming.

Possibly even the US? Are you joking? I am completely convinced that right after Russia the US is the next most likely country to invade EU in the next few years. Maybe even more likely as Russia cant make it past Ukraine.

My comment was meant to mimic right-wing talking points which exaggerate social democratic ideas as as if they were extremist viewpoints. Guess it wasnt as clear as I imagined it in my head.

Wow chill I was being sarcastic. Thought it was obvious enough but seems Lemmy isnt so different from reddit after all, the /s is always needed.

Fucking communist europe, respecting women a tiny little bit more than not at all.

You mean communism?

Edit: /s because it seems it wasnt obvious enough

>and she showed how it gets used against those representatives that have certain opinions, but not others.

Thats exactly not what she showed, because it is enforced against everyone equally. The others just decided to follow the rule. I dont even believe she would have wanted to stay, she was obviously provoking it. She probably wanted to get some attention on the topic, get people to talk about it even if it meant being thrown out. It was her decision and she knew the consequences and she obviously decided it was worth it. Maybe its a good thing overall. But pretending that enforcing the rule itself was wrong is just hypocrisy.

Look, I know its hard to accept that not everything is a conspiracy to keep the left small. Playing the victim is the far-rights tactic and we dont need to drop to their level, its pathetic.

Everything youve been saying is completely biased and I think you know that by now but are still grasping at hypocritical straws. Enforcing rules that were set in place for keeping order in the parliament is not "anti-democratic", how the fuck do you even come up with this bs.

By the way, did you know Nazis drink water and breathe air? You should stop doing that, youre just repeating their behavior.

She knew she was going to be expelled beforehand and actively decided to wear the shirt anyway. It was her decision, not someone else making up some new arbitrary rule to expell her. You would definitely not defend a far-right politician with an "abortion is murder" shirt in the same situation. Youre simply biased. Not enforcing it after it becomes evident would be undemocratic period.

Im really glad the rule was enforced, otherwise tomorrow the whole AfD fraction would show up with far-right rhetoric shirts and either prove that rules in the parliament dont matter or get criticized and use it to position themselves as the victims like always. Whats the use in that?

>Germany might not be Fascist yet, but by now it's already less Democratic than most of Europe

You have literally no idea what youre talking about. Why am I even wasting my time.

You said a Ukraine shirt would not have been treated the same. Thats what I was asking about. Nothing you wrote supports that point

When it happens, youre welcome to get upset and you should be. But until then Im glad they are at least enforcing the rules that are in place like they are intended and dont start making up their own arbitrary rules giving no fucks about democracy like in fascist US.

It is not the same, which I never claimed. Its just another example. Take whatever example you want. A russian flag, "Heil Kim Jong Un", "free Israel", whatever. They would all be treated like this because they break a rule thats been there forever. Its not arbitrary and definitely not anti-left. When youre robbing a bank, it doesnt matter if the bank is run by a Nazi or if you distribute the money among the poor. You will go to jail.

Im definitely not equating it, I was giving an example. The rule is no political messages on clothing, this goes for the left and the right. Just because being left is morally better than being a fascist doesnt mean rules dont matter anymore.

What the fuck is anti-democratic about enforcing a rule thats been clear to everyone? Dont get riled up by ragebait, this is not what you seem to think it is.

Why would you make that assumption? Its completely baseless and most likely untrue.

So you wouldnt want AfD representatives removed if they wore Ye shirts with "indian peace symbols"? This is simply enforcing the rules, theres no deep conspiracy or fascism behind it.

And every time democracy is on the line. Like people are fed up with it, back to good old Fascism. Because its Democracy thats treating us like shit, not Capitalism.

A kind of terrifying thought Ive had, what if theyre waiting for russia to go 'all in' so that it can be attacked, stopped and occupied for profit.