u/outhouseperilous

Or chinese, russian, honestly anybody. Anybody has this chance.

Im glad i live somewhere *civilized* and that could n-

...shit.

Americans tend to overuse conspiracy to mythologize so they can support theirvmasdive cognitive dissonance and/or feel like there's a daddy in control of everything up to and apparentlybincluding the weather. Except tor the handful who are fucking sick if that shit and so used to dismissingbit out of hand.

>he didnt win

Feels like he got to sieze the definition, do all his atrocities.

>antisemitism is still a big problem

To you, maybe. To zionists, that's a feature!

>jews are still not safe anywhere

Nobody is, dear. Safety does not grow in walled gardens, and we firebomb the commons pretty regularly.

>which version was not about explicitly being a fucking monster

I forget their main advocates or if they were calked specific things, most of what i know about this was chatting with an old historian and an article i read a billion years ago, but there really were different ideas of it as recently as the thirties, like joining already extant communities somewhere. They were, like any 19th century european idea, never completely unproblematic, but some of them tried and at least read as genuinely well intentioned, and there was a lot of schismy bitterness as the meaning of thr word crystalized around hertzel's thing. Now of course it's one of tge most vile words in English, but he did not invent it. Mightve been the one who imported it to english.

Hertzel's version, yes. He also tried to get *literally cecil rhodes* to help. There were others, and people who hated that guy. It didnt quite mean just one thing til a few years later, though.

In the modern definition of the word, yes, its herzel's that won. I woukd never defend what it *is* in earnest, only point out that before it started to congeal, it could have been/meant other things.

Well, 19th century zionism was a different thing. Edit: or rather, a more diverse collection if things. Optionally but not necessarily evil. Sometimes it was as benign as 'lets all go somewhere and join a community together ajd bring the ways that we're cool to that community and even if they dont totally like us, they can't hate us more than these assholes'.

So it is fair to say that the idea of zionism that 'won', the genocidal theocratic ethnostate, is at least to some extent based on both the nazis, and some of the same esoteric bs the nazis were into.

Genuinely the worst fucking lemmy server. Tankie shit is exhausting, but it doesnt flirt with world wars.

Such a shame that doing anything about it, including asking nicely, would be rabidly antisemitic.

Edit: also acknowledging that it's both happening and a problem is antisemitic. You are allowed to day it *would* be bad if it did, and youre allowed to acknowledge whats happening only while you sing the popular zionist childrens song 'exterminate the brutes'.

>these arent soldiers!

Oh?

>they're [description of what soldiers have been for most of history]

So u only disagree with the first three words you said.

It does, and ukraine is known to do that.

But it also sounds like the kind of horror story soldiers would tell about their own side in a particularly trenchy war.

They don't have positive emotions.

But not in a cool intellectual way like me.

Yeah. But, hey, fuck it?

We could just... Not pay them?

Edit: charge them fines for the shit they pulled, sell off their gear, do the sane for any cop or agency that collaborated. Even set a precedent that complying with illegal orders is bad and you shouldn't! We won't do any of that, but we could!

>arch motorcycles

Wait, there was actual product placement in cyberpunk 2077? Also yes. Even without post scarcity, that's a perfectly lovely way to get around.

>ceos bad

Also, the mba was the invention of robert e lee. It was revenge for 'ending' slavery, and the seeds from which it rose more powerful than before.

So, you know; fuck them. They are a poison. Turn stanford to glass.

Artists give. When they actually work. At their real jobs. Dubno if they deserve more than scientists or steel workers, but if it turns out we do actually need inequaluty and theres a lottery for which professions make you rich, i won't begrudge them a win.

Ceo's take, ruin, defile everything they touch. The meth addict who wanders around the city pissing on things is closer to a net positive than a ceo. The MBA and its various spawn was the final genocidal victory lap of the confederacy, and their purée must all soak the soil before the tree of freedom can grow.

No im saying iran does the good version of the 'incredibly baroque luxury' shit trump kind of shittily imitates. Iranian culture has the not-entirely-tacky-shit version of that.

And yeah, imperialism sucks.

You can't name one, can you?

Also, publisher turned down your childrens book, didn't they?

Show me a conservative christian alive right now who's not a piece of shit.

I'll show you a dozen godless commie queers who are better. Then in five years ill dhow you all the kids your guy was raping.

Okay, but some if those standpoints don't require mental illness and delusions.

Yep!

Clearly you haven't read the bible.