tiny lemmy

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Long term computer programmer, making my own library. American based. Far left politically. Politics centered around promoting use of paper ballots. Follows news about environmental collapse, political corruption in my country, human rights, science and tech.

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9 points ·

One of the first of many.

I think this will be rarer now than later though. It’s really early days and the detained probably are still being treated mostly in the rule of law. Not that the arrests would stand up to legal scrutiny. But once arrested will probably not be too harmed physically.

Later, of course, this will change. If we are lucky it will only be some victims, and not hundreds of thousands

4 points ·

All I know is that if I can blame the average Russian, German, Brit, Serbian, Hutu etc for bad things in history. No force on earth is going to have me give Americans a pass. Especially after the majority of them supported the wars in the Middle East.

It’s a genocide, the clues are everywhere. It’s not an American thing that makes it unique. There are shitty people everywhere mixed in with decent folks.

And it’s fine to not protest or just be quiet. Sometimes that is all one can do. It’s ok to think one is powerless to oppose such things. This is the case for many.

But actual support that is voluntary? No

And I think there is some overlap between our two views. Many of the people who I would give a pass to, are many of the people you talk about

1 points ·

No doubt about the genocide.

Maybe I am unfairly judging Americans who support Israel or look down on Palestinians.

But I have so much anger about that I cannot be impartial. Most Americans have had hints they ignore, deliberately. I can’t forgive that

3 points ·

I think it’s all part of the child abuse cycle; people manipulated and humiliated while young, without a person to speak up for them, tend to support these types of things. And a lot of their children will too.

But those who had more nurturing and love tend to not support ideologies which dehumanize, and can recognize more when something promotes senseless violence. They are also more decent adults.

-2 points ·

It mostly works on people already bigoted and hateful, I think. A decent person may have inaccurate picture, but indecent people support it more

10 points ·

Brainwashing or just nasty people?