u/SCmSTR

Depends on how they're deciding ordering. It could be that earlier waitlist emails mean higher on the list. But it could also be a different system.

It could also be when you put in to the raffle, you're in line. Then on raffle close time, they start at the beginning of the line and rng you a number between 1 and the number of people in line, setting your order, and if you get a number within however many units they have, you win a reservation. With the waves of emails just being them going through chunks of people, eliminating undesirables and cheaters and bots and stuff.

Like the first 10 people who put in initially could all get the highest (worst) numbered slots in the order. And if you haven't gotten an email at all yet, you could still rng slot #1, assuming it's available.

It could also just be a massive shuffle at all once and them just vetting the accounts.

I'm really curious to how they're actually doing it. It could absolutely be more robust, and it's exciting to imagine them really getting carried away with the method. Like total rng ordering with tie breaking or something silly. Or like a recursive iterative sort for no reason. These raffles ran by scientists can get crazy nerdy quickly. Maybe they'll talk about it and have done something like use hl2 to order stuff somehow.

2+4=6, 4+0=4

Yeah, so what are your options you're looking at

Ah. I tried.

How about this: use the Index.

They're already using a literal phone soc that HAS CAMERAS. Having two *color* cameras on board probably would have cost *much much* less than an external, $150, third party module, like maybe a tenth of that at scale so like maybe $15 more. OoooOOOOOooooo scary

They likely made compromises like this all over the device to keep the price as low as possible, this (and the ergo pack) is just one that they errored on and probably should have just included.

For now. Software is constantly changing. Plus, even my very old gearvr had color pasthrough.

And, when you consider that valve is partially putting out this device to stoke vr/ar/mr enthusiasm, I would have liked to try a headset with great pasthrough. I tried the apple headset right as it came out in a store, and the headset was awesome, but lived in a closed wall garden. The passthrough on it was awesome. That xr keeps taking steps backwards is tragic every single time.

I guess now I know what it must've been like in the 80s when vr was this cool tehcno fantasy that went nowhere until basically palmer lucky *spits on floor*.

Edit: i forgot to really answer. Because passthrough is part of vr. Also because it's cool. Also because it's still novel to me and I want to play with it. Also because maybe I would have made something with it. Also because backwards progress is sad and annoying and feels bad.

Okay, but what are your other options?

Depends. Ltt put out a video where they said it even lasted under an hour in heavy usage.

1tb isn't all that much these days. Especially considering one of the big selling points of the Frame is "access to the biggest existing library and ecosystem".

1tb would have been a lot in, say, 2009. But, now, in 2026 (almost **two decades** later), there are *multiple* games that won't even fit on 256gb even if you got the whole 256gb and there wasn't os or anything.

And considering the thing is basically a pc at this point, there's a TON more than just vr or flat screen gaming that you're gonna be able to do on it. And, sure, it has a microsd slot (but no headphone jack, *fuck you apple!*), but I don't want to *rely* on that and would much rather have that as an option down the line, years from now, when things get *even* bigger.

Yeah we can only hope it's going to be better, each type has their pros and cons, but Valve is also known to innovate, so... Cross your fingers I guess

We wouldn't want them to run out of money.... Or life, would we?

Apparently the thumbsticks were actually shite? Mine never went out, but I've heard from other people.

I think what sanpo meant was the actual tracking of the headset and controllers, since the index used base stations PLUS accelerometers, giving them VERY precise location and movement. Whereas the frame controllers seem to be only inside-out optical, maybe with accelerometers?

We will have to wait and see. With them being better or worse than the index, we'll have to wait and see. I'm still excited.

The entire index kit was 1000 before all the bullshit.. iirc, you could buy just the headset for like 650, because the base stations were like 100 each and the controllers were separate too. My memory is a little fuzzy on that.... But let's say 1000 for all of it. Putting the frame, with all extras at like.... 800 target price point before all the fascism scarcities, and considering the about price-doubling of ram, would put it at right about the same price as the steam machine? Maybe if they were targeting 600, it might be like 1000 now?

:(

Ngl, I also thought of that and think it would be badass. If it were that 90s clear plastic, what colors would you want the most, besides, obviously, that purple? ^.^

https://64.media.tumblr.com/bbc096566ab94bfc0086361c36a506d3/e3609eac53a9b92f-87/s2560x500/df66d6f5fc46433e10f20eeeff8891cc5e74d771.png

Steam input is insanely powerful, and just a bit confusing. But, Valve was smart and layered on public sharing of profiles PER GAME *and* when you look for community profiles for a game, it shows you their popularity and age.

More dedicated buttons is always the correct *second* choice to **proper game input design**, but having a custom Steam input layer will make up for almost anything you wanted to ever throw at it; you could control an mmo with a wiimote if you were daring enough.

I personally don't think it's ugly, just plain, maybe. And while I would say "you don't watch your hands while you game", I do like a classy and/or nice looking controller. I kind of wish Valve would decide on a more striking look, but I suppose this look IS a statement of their values and priorities.

This feels like a joke, but...

All three pictures in the right column go higher by going down the page/list, even the examples, themselves. It's the exact same. Numerically (count) higher and down on the page.

:<

No, uh, unfortunately for me, my healthcare was politicized and made illegal and now it's bankrupting me