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The World Is Warming Up. And It’s Happening Faster. | Human-caused global warming has been increasing faster and faster since the 1970s.

c/world · u/silence7@slrpnk.net · 162 points

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u/Buffalox@lemmy.world · 1 points

When the seas are boiling and everything else is hotter than that, I don't think so.

If that was the case, why isn't there life on Venus?

u/Buffalox@lemmy.world · 1 points

The earth core is hot too, if the surface gets hot everything in between gets hot too.

u/Joncash2@lemmy.ml · 6 points

Naw, look at the dinosaurs and the ice age. Life evolves, life survives. The life forms we know of today are dead and who knows what life will look like in the future. Never forget water bears exist. Even if life needs to crawl back up from the ocean it will. The humans are definitely fucked.

u/Kepion@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 points

All that life living on chemical soup from the geothermal vents at the bottom of the ocean ain't gonna give a fuck about temperature fluctuations far above.

u/breecher@sh.itjust.works · 2 points

Definitely not the end of all life on Earth. Most of it sure, but there are certainly living organism which are going to survive, just like they did the other times this had happened on Earth.

u/breecher@sh.itjust.works · 4 points

Life on the planet is not fine. We are in a mass extinction event after all. It is "fine" as in life will continue to exist without us and the millions of other species which are going to perish, but that is hardly the definition of "fine".

u/Buffalox@lemmy.world · 3 points

If we get runaway climate change it's the end of ALL life on earth, not just humans. Humans will probably survive the longest, because we can create artificial means to sustain us.

Humans are already surviving from Sahara to beyond the arctic circles, I don't think other species are capable of that, except maybe bacteria.

Of course the planet doesn't give a shit, it's just a big rock. But to say the earth is fine is wrong unless you don't consider life a factor at all.

u/golli@sopuli.xyz · 11 points

Well part of this is because Europe is in fact heating up faster than the world average

Global mean temperature between 2015 and 2024 was 1.24 to 1.28°C warmer than the pre-industrial level, which makes it the warmest decade on record. European land temperatures have increased even faster over the same period by 2.19 to 2.26°C, depending on the dataset used.

European environment agency

u/Joncash2@lemmy.ml · 9 points

That's the real problem in the end. We're really only able to survive In a fairly tight band of weather. So even small movements out of our band feels terrible to us. The unnerving truth is the planet is fine. Life on the planet is fine. It's survived much colder and much hotter. The humans on earth on the other hand...

u/breecher@sh.itjust.works · 10 points

Because, at the behest of their oligarch masters, they are among the most vocal climate change deniers in existence. Is this really news to you?

u/vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -13 points

>Typical maga right winger.

Why do you target **them**? They do fucking nothing but feeling superior to you

u/Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world · 25 points

ArE yoU GUys stIlL obsESsed wiTH thE reliGIOn oF CLIMATE ALARMISM!??

_Gets in lifted diesel pickup truck_

_rolls coal_

  • Typical maga right winger.

u/Buffalox@lemmy.world · 14 points

The graph shows "only" 0,5° C increase over the past decade, but it feels like way more IMO.

I live in Denmark, and we used to have winters with constant frost for about a month around January/February.

The past few years it's been very few days with frost, and not even a month of consistent frost during nights!

I absolutely agree with the graph in that it's become way more noticeable this past decade.

u/asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 points

This is how feedback loops behave. Climate scientists have been ignoring them in their models for decades, now it is becoming too obvious to ignore. They still don't want to acknowledge the endpoint.

u/Paragone@lemmy.world · 1 points

There is a dead-simple concept that humankind has been ignoring.

The SPEED of climate-change is following a curve similar to a bell-curve:

it was at zero.

it will, in the end, in the new climate-equilibrium, be zero.

Between, however, it will accelerate until it reaches a peak-speed, & then slow-down to the new climate-equilibrium.

Obviously, we're still in the accelerating-part of the curve.

Obviously, if the past accelerating-curve is matched by future decelerating-towards-zero duration, then the total planetary-heating we're in-for is MUCH more than what "consensus" "science" asserted.

Equally obviously, it'll accelerate faster & faster until it reaches its peak-acceleration, & then it'll slow in acceleration until the peak-speed-of-change is reached, remain there for awhile before beginning deceleration..

This simple, basic concept, that the **general** shape of a ClimatePunctuation is roughly bell-curved for speed, should identify the minimum-magnitude of change, for all..

So should the powerlaw underlying the change, which shows that for the current CO2 we're aiming at a minimum of +6C, but when methane is included, then we're aiming into a minimum of +9C.

No, MSM isn't going to be either honest or proactive,

so just expect more incredulity, more normalization-of-disinformation, more "the evidence contradicts the valid-model" "science", & more .. essentially, filibustering to prevent any competent mitigation.

The bell-curve-shape of the speed-of-change & the powerlaw underlying the planetary-equilibrium-temperature are both profound, don't care who says what, & work.

They're trustworthy..

The disinformation-pushers, however, profit in social-status from what they're doing, so that'll continue, until the very end.

Here's the powerlaw *without* including methane: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature19798

When I added-in the methane, & the proper timescale for adding it in is 12y, apparently ( presume that we'll keep adding more & more of it, too, as that's what the evidence declares ), which makes it much more significant than I'd thought.. ( methane has a short halflife in the atmosphere, so the longer you measure a *particular input's* effect, the weaker it gets. That means, though, that the ever-increasing amount we're measuring in our atmosphere is directly due to ever-increasing amount of methane-release, not to accumulation-of-previous-releases. )

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