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Macron: Trump has realised Putin has been lying to him

c/world · u/Pro@programming.dev · 437 points

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u/tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 1 points

He's not a complete idiot, but he has very little knowledge, which in many situations is almost the same thing. However, I wouldn't underestimate his daddy issues. Even a highly intelligent person (which he definitely is not) can fall to inner biases, and I wouldn't put it past dictators to fit neatly into the hole in his heart from never receiving papa's love.

u/frezik@midwest.social · 4 points

Propaganda is useful. It might be wrong, but there is a specific reason they're saying it.

u/HK65@sopuli.xyz · 19 points

I do believe Macron said that. What else is the headline stating?

u/khannie@lemmy.world · 9 points

"I believe that President Trump has realised that when President Putin told him he was ready for peace, he was lying," Macron emphasised

u/HK65@sopuli.xyz · 30 points

I think it's less of "Putin wanted peace", but that "Putin is amenable to peace if he gets everything he wants", which might have even been true before the Russian economy got so wrecked that stopping the war would crash it.

u/yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 points

Fair, "positive aspect" would've been significantly better wording. There's nothing Trump can do to redeem himself unless he does an inverse John Fetterman.

u/mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 12 points

The sole redeeming factor

yeah I really don't see this as a redeeming factor but I don't disagree with the overall premise

u/taladar@sh.itjust.works · 3 points

if Trump continues to ignore legal precedent

Can you really be said to ignore something if you are totally ignorant of its existence?

u/TachyonTele@lemm.ee · 3 points

Nah, Trump is just intimidated by Putin. He's scared of him. There could be blackmail, but i doubt at this point that's why he acts the way he does.

He'll kiss his ass because Putin is stronger than him and he knows it.

u/NotAGamer@lemmy.org · 1 points

Doesn't need to. He has blackmail instead. He'll call Trump within the week and Trump will suddenly be kissing Putin's ass once again.

u/peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 7 points

Ah, and he won't be able to realize that either.

But I have a feeling when more countries with well respected leaders say the same thing, and state the same thing to appeal to his ego, it will further cement the idea in Trump's mind, that Putin "cheated him".

I don't have high expectations, but let's see how it plays out.

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But to be clear, if something else were to remove Trump from being the problem I wouldn't oppose that either.

u/xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 29 points

this is strategic. By appealing to his ego, he can tell trump that putin has been lying, while calling trump smart for realizing it instead of calling him gullible for not realizing it.

u/TachyonTele@lemm.ee · 4 points

Seems like those articles just highlight how much of a test bed Ukraine is for weapons manufacturers more than anything to do with policy. But i could be misreading it, it's early for me.

u/shalafi@lemmy.world · 11 points

>“There are no longer any range restrictions on weapons delivered to Ukraine – neither by the British, nor by the French, nor by us, nor by the Americans,”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/26/germany-and-ukraines-other-allies-scrap-range-limits-on-arms-sent-to-kyiv

u/Ledericas@lemm.ee · 4 points

depends on how scared of putin, trump is from time to time. many times trumps was ghostly white after "talking" to putin, when something goes bad for putin.

u/TachyonTele@lemm.ee · 44 points

Trump will never directly help Ukraine. He simply won't. Best he'll do is stop helping Putin. Even that's a far off "if".

u/barneypiccolo@lemm.ee · 2 points

It's all an act. Putin let him know that he's about to start bombing cities, and told HitlerPig to verbally condemn it, but do nothing else. It gives him the ability to say that he's not in Putin's pocket, after all, he condemned the Ukrainian bombing.

Talk is cheap, especially Political talk, and ESPECIALLY HitlerPig talk.

u/Buffalox@lemmy.world · 148 points

Let's see if Trump reverts to his old position again in a couple of days.

I don't trust anything Trump says, he also said to multiple major European leaders, that he would sanction Russia if they didn't agree to a ceasefire.

A week has gone by, and as usual Trump has done nothing to help Ukraine.

u/psychothumbs@lemmy.world · 78 points

The best case scenario is that Trump really was such a moron as to believe Putin wanted peace and now feels betrayed and does a 180 on Ukraine policy. Much more likely he will stay the course on screwing Ukraine.

u/Akasazh@feddit.nl · 48 points

I admire the take that Trump is able to realize stuff.

But I'm not very hopefull

u/Doomsider@lemmy.world · 33 points

It is just time to play both sides and make it out like DT is reasonable. He has done nothing to reign in Russia and I highly doubt he would do anything but a symbolic gesture.

This is just a White House propaganda piece. Make people doubt his allegiance to Russia. A big waste of our time, but that appears to be the point.

u/peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 27 points

Is he talking about the actual US President Donald Trump?

I don't think he has the mental capacity to realize anything

u/blattrules@lemmy.world · 26 points

Yeah, but Zelenskyy didn’t wear a suit or thank trump himself publicly for the hundredth time, so I’m sure trump is still team Putin.

u/Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 25 points

Trump is such a fucking gullible, demented moron. The only people dumber than him are the people that voted for him.

u/yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de · 18 points

Please.

The sole redeeming factor about Trump is being extremely unpredictable. He is a quintessentially ignorant American in that way. No one can reliably control him, he will flip-flop between diametrically opposed positions at will.

Hopefully chaos impersonated will turn on Putin for a while. Hell, if Trump continues to ignore legal precedent he may be able to harm Russia more than Biden ever did.

u/atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 14 points

French President Emmanuel Macron believes US President Donald Trump has finally realised that Russian leader Vladimir Putin has been deceiving him.

Oh my no... The cognitive dissonance will take over. Trump will be back to blaming Ukraine and talking about how wonderful Putin is again in short order

u/timewarp@lemmy.world · 6 points

When they have the kompromat, they even let you be pretend mad from time to time. Talk is cheap though.

u/hedhoncho@lemm.ee · 3 points

Considering how all of MAGA played 2020 ( they downright knew the facade the whole time) There’s not a doubt Trump knew what was going on. He may play a dumb American but there’s just no way trump just realized this. He’s known it all along just like 2020.

u/Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 points

Trump's not an idiot, he just plays one on TV. He wants to distance himself from Putin now for some reason. I'm not sure why, but I'm sure there is a reason.