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Pope Francis has died, the Vatican camerlengo, announces

c/world · u/fossilesque@mander.xyz · 374 points

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u/theneverfox@pawb.social · 4 points

Taken right after the handshake

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u/MapleEngineer@lemmy.world · 16 points

Sometimes, after being exposed to the MAGA mind virus, people give up all hope for humanity and die.

u/ReiRose@lemmy.world · 15 points

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u/barneypiccolo@lemm.ee · 2 points

Yep, nobody would suspect a thing if he suddenly dropped dead. The perfect crime.

u/fossilesque@mander.xyz · 6 points

Francis, who suffered from chronic lung disease and had part of one lung removed as a young man, was admitted to Gemelli hospital on Feb. 14, 2025, for a respiratory crisis that developed into double pneumonia. He spent 38 days there, the longest hospitalization of his 12-year papacy.

He was 88.

u/Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 2 points

Most of the current Cardinals who are eligible to vote were chosen by Pope Francis, so I think it is likely that the next Pope will be one willing to continue the path taken by Francis. But I don't want to be too optimistic.

u/Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 2 points

There does appear to be a built in buffer zone according to some interpretations lol

u/frezik@midwest.social · 3 points

New pope gets elected, and then the believers will say it was misinterpreted the whole time. This is the standard way.

u/But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 1 points

lol it’s funny if you use the change takes time in politics, people flip out. The democrats got crucified for not changing enough, but the church gets infinite chances and endless forgiveness for their crimes

u/pulsewidth@lemmy.world · 4 points

Change takes time and they've been anti-gay for a very, very long time. No sane person thinks a single pope solved all the centuries of repression in 10 years.

What I do know is that the conservative Catholics I personally know thought Pope Francis was "too liberal" and "just saying woke things because that's what young people like nowadays" and those are both endorsements to my ears.

Especially his attitude on climate change and income inequality and tax avoidance by the wealthy - there is a lot of that in conservative church groups and if their God's PR representative is telling them to cut that shit out and look after the environment better then **great**.

u/But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 9 points

None of it was real, it was all PR talk. Go to South America as an openly gay person into a church ABS see how progressive they really are.

u/Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 2 points

If it were an ordinary sentence used in casual conversation, sure. But for a news headline, it makes sense to put the most important information at the beginning.

u/VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 9 points

It actually doesn't fit the rules. That comma before "announces" is completely unnecessary and accomplishes nothing. The headline should read,

Pope Francis has died, the Vatican camerlengo announces

u/Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee · 3 points

It's passive language. It should read: So and so announces, Pope Francis has died.

u/qyron@sopuli.xyz · -13 points

I was taughy any sentence fragment between commas is added, yet not vital, information to a sentence, capable of being removed without taking away any crucial information conveied.

It fits the rules.

And, commas also act as a way to convey the rithym you intend your sentences to be read.

I have a really hard time reading english and not feel rushed to do it.

u/qaz@lemmy.world · 19 points

And he is also elected (not by the people, but elected nontheless)

u/catloaf@lemm.ee · 3 points

He has some. He has direct control over church matters, and a lot of people willingly follow the church. So if the church says "no red meat on Fridays", the people will do that.

u/originaltnavn@lemm.ee · 8 points

He is elected though? It is not as easy to depose a pope as a president, but there is no military coup, secret police or other things associated with dictatorships.

u/barsoap@lemm.ee · 2 points

In his position as pope he has no state power, only spiritual, and in his position as monarch of the Vatican, well there's only church employees living there and Italy has an eye on things. Generally speaking unless otherwise stated Italian law applies within the Vatican.

Also he's elected. Not that that means much it means that he's a mouthpiece of the oligarchs (cardinals) electing him. But while we're at elected monarchs, there's one rather curious case: The French president is co-prince of Andorra, that is, their head of state, he shares that position with the local Bishop. Nearly 800 years ago the Andorrans said "yeah let's not get invaded" and gave the title to the French head of state, then revolution happened, now the French are electing the Andorran head of state.

u/barsoap@lemm.ee · 2 points

Makes sense -- punctuation is ultimately about signalling pauses and inflection in speech; you can get rather creative if, and only if! so desired.

u/thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works · 14 points

It’s a Walken comma:

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/2da9a8ae-1aaf-4e63-a074-b83a46dcc73c.webp

u/qyron@sopuli.xyz · 2 points

I think it is mandatory. There is a very precise rite to declare a pope as deceased.

u/NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz · 2 points

I imagine if you're already on your deathbed and you have to listen to some shitty little windbag, it could remove your motivation to hang on.

u/IceFoxX@lemm.ee · 8 points

I don't know, but of course it could be. I had only heard that vance had visited him, which was just as shitty an action as the unwanted visit to Greenland.

u/rosco385@lemm.ee · 49 points

I hope he had the chance to tell JD Vance exactly how much of a fuckwit he is before passing.

u/pulsewidth@lemmy.world · 27 points

Definitely the 'least bad' pope of my lifetime. Let's hope the next one continues the progressive stance he adopted on many aspects of life.

u/IceFoxX@lemm.ee · 22 points

Sad that a piece of shit like j.d. vance was with him before.

u/mhague@lemmy.world · 16 points

What are the chances that the Cardinals protest vote two elections in a row and they accidentally elect a decent man *again*? Can you imagine back to back decent Popes? Not sure if it's happened in my lifetime.

u/AJ1@lemmy.ca · 15 points

That needless comma in the title, is annoying.

u/Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 15 points

I wonder if they still tap the dead pope three times with a silver hammer to check if they're really dead?

u/Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 4 points

Gonna be some nice crazy shit about the Prophecy of the Popes flying around, this will be interesting to observe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

*aaaaaaaaaand, there it is:

https://youtu.be/pm8uIYceGvg

u/ramble81@lemm.ee · 3 points

Sucks that he died, but got me thinking. How is the Pope any different from a Dictator? He’s literally one person at the top who has the authority to decide how an entire group of people should think and act and believes he has divine authority to do so?

u/gressen@lemm.ee · 2 points

Did he finally learn who invaded Ukraine, or was he blissfully unaware until his last moments?

Edit: adding /s just in case

u/barneypiccolo@lemm.ee · -3 points

There are no coincidences in politicas, and the fact that he died immediately after meeting with Vance is highly suspicious. Vance killed him, or someone in his entourage did.

HitlerPig will now demand the Vatican choose his hand-picked candidate, some conservative troll from Wisconsin. Mark my words, soon HitlerPig will be threatening the Catholic Church with removing their tax-exemot status if they don't install his choice.