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Europe Is Now the Fastest Warming Continent—Report

c/europe · u/Sunshine@lemmy.ca · 202 points

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u/huppakee@lemm.ee · 1 points

Heating and cooling buildings both cost immense amounts of energy, but in places where spaces are heated the global rise in temperature generally means less energy is needed for heating because it is less cold. I don't have the experience that discussions about this favour the ones living in colder climates over the ones living in warmer climates, but if you feel this is personal let me say that you shouldn't sit in scorching heat just because the world fucked up and shouldn't feel bad about using an airconditioning. Spending a long time in high temperatures actually kills people. I was not in any way saying the people who right now don't have airconditioning should not get one, just that it is better for the global temperature a lot of people don't have one.

u/jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 3 points

This is happening in Switzerland. So many people want to switch to heat pumps there's a years long queue for the craftsmen's time and the machines themselves

u/Obi@sopuli.xyz · 3 points

They're pushed pretty hard I think but still not enough.

u/albert180@piefed.social · 8 points

When it's hot during the day there is usually sun too.

Solar makes this problem less worse

u/Lazhward@lemmy.world · 6 points

We should be converting people to heat pumps, that way we can transition away from gas for heating and have both heating and cooling from green energy. This will reduce the carbon footprint overall and give people AC.

u/huppakee@lemm.ee · 2 points

Green energy also requires resources though, i meant it is good for the planet they don't have any of course it won't be good once they get one.

u/PixelTron@lemm.ee · 10 points

Unfortunately not when a lot of those homes will end up getting AC to survive the ever increasing heat. Unless of course they are mostly powered by green energy, so maybe there is some hope!

u/calavera@lemm.ee · 1 points

I find it funny that this kind of argument just appears when people are talking about cooling but never when people are talking about heating.

u/HasturInYellow@lemmy.world · 7 points

What's really crazy is that Europe will soon need most homes to have central heating. With the AMOC collapse hurrying along, Europe will actually fall off in temp soon and be more like Canada. Meanwhile the eastern USA will be flooded and very hot because the current stopped pulling hot water away from the coast.

Give that like 20 years or so. Maybe less.

u/huppakee@lemm.ee · 5 points

This is bad for the people in those homes, but good for global tempurate.

u/dumblederp@aussie.zone · 4 points

Australia is a big country with trucks delivering stuff everywhere which makes for a huge part of out climate contribution. Per capita we're in the doghouse for emissions standards, fortunately there's not a lot of us.

u/A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 2 points

For those affected by it. But it's called **global** climate catastrophe for a reason.

Nothing against you, but I know that some people would use that argument in earnest.

u/albert180@piefed.social · 4 points

We should focus on reducing the emissions we can easily reduce right now. As I've said, intercontinental travel is not a huge part of plane travel/emissions in Europe.

You can make synthetic fuel from CO2 and lots of electricity, and researchers say, that this might be something for those long flights. But it will make them much much more expensive.

u/albert180@piefed.social · 5 points

Night Trains for European Routes.

I do this regularly for all my long distance travels. It's unfortunately more expensive than flying, but it's better for the environment and you don't really lose time as it's over night.

Most flights aren't long distance, but "I want to get wasted 1000kms away on a 30€ easyJet Fare with the boys"

And even for the long distances in Europe, if the political will is there you could have High Speed Night Trains

u/CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 points

I guess it's similar to the situation in Germany, though a few years further in the development.

Right wing populism, lack of political education, populist media outlets, centre politicians adopting right wing policies in an ill-fated attempt to get their voters back, a population generally dissatisfied with the establishment due to the consequences of neoliberalism, etc.

u/brrt@lemm.ee · 3 points

It is like cyberegg speculated. Right wing anti immigration populism party.

u/brrt@lemm.ee · 14 points

We had 2 snowfalls this winter here in Austria and summer regularly hits 30+ for multiple weeks. No snow = no melting water reservoir... Yet our people vote for a Partie that still calls it a hoax. We're so fucked.

u/Famko@lemmy.world · 8 points

And the most common sentiment about climate change right now among KTU civil engineer students is "oh stop shoving this climate bullshit down our throats" and it isn't even exclusive to the fucking students.

Makes me mad listening to it.

u/A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 38 points

Can’t believe there are idiots that still deny climate change.

Yep. The signs are all around us, even in Northern Europe. Not so far north that melting glaciers are a thing, but shorter and warmer winters, earlier spring, burnt grass in summer (this has _never_ been a thing in Finland), disruption of long-standing weather patterns...

Most "sensible" deniers nowadays claim it's not human made. For them I always keep this xkcd handy.

u/Saleh@feddit.org · 17 points

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/algeria-experiences-highest-levels-heat-stress-2024-global-temperatures-breach-15c

Temperatures around 50°C with "feels temperature" almost at 60°C. I know some people use saunas at 60°C

u/Mihies@programming.dev · 12 points

No problemo - let's us just ban reports on this while increasing fossil fuels consumption and eating more meat. There, problem solved.

u/dumblederp@aussie.zone · 4 points

G'day mate, yeah us hot regions are getting screwed faster and harder by climate change. One saving grace is we've been building places to handle the heat for longer.

u/jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 2 points

Perhaps the denial is more widespread there because in the wealthy oil dictatorships there is no other industry, at all. The saudi dictator is trying to diversify but let's not kid ourselves, the economy is still 95% oil

u/huppakee@lemm.ee · 10 points

I saw this series last year called Extrapolations, and even though the story itself wasn't necessarily that good I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to _see_ how the future might look. I've read a lot about rising temperatures and extreme weather but this show really helped me visualise how those things might impact me and the generations after me. It's not a disaster movie like The Day After Tomorrow or 2012 where everything goes wrong all of a sudden, but rather a set of stories where things gradually get worse. Hopefully they will never get as bad as in the last few episodes but I believe the whole thing is backed by science and shows things that will actually happen if we do not do enough about climate change.

u/otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 points

Just gotta live long enough to inherit that newly beachfront property in Lichtenstein, then. 🤞🏼

u/remon@ani.social · -7 points

I have been enjoying the mild and almost snowless winters, though ...