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Elon Musk's zero-tariff proposal with Europe is a sign of weakness and fear, German economy minister says

c/world · u/MicroWave@lemmy.world · 364 points

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**Summary**

Germany’s Economy Minister Robert Habeck criticized Elon Musk’s proposal for zero tariffs between the US and Europe, calling it a “sign of weakness” driven by fear of economic fallout.

Habeck said Musk should instead pressure Trump to lift the newly imposed tariffs, including those targeting the European Union.

Musk’s call for zero tariffs comes amid market chaos after Trump’s “Liberation Day” tariffs, which included a 20% rate on the EU. The S&P 500 plunged 10% and the Nasdaq 100 entered a bear market.

The EU prepared retaliatory measures, while China and Canada vowed to respond. Analysts warned of rising recession risks amid escalating global trade tensions.


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u/ms_lane@lemmy.world · 2 points

Potayto Potatah

Tomayto Tomahta

Watermellow Watermelah

Let's Call The Whole Thing Off.

u/ms_lane@lemmy.world · 2 points

:(

Petition to change the fruit descriptor 'Melon' to 'Melo' - the 'n' is wrong anyway since the root latin is 'Melopepo'

Rockmelo

Watermelo

Honey Dew Melo, etc.

u/ms_lane@lemmy.world · 17 points

Please don't insult delicious Melons like that.

What did Rockmelon or tasty Honey Dew Melon do to be compared to 'ol musky?

u/Cort@lemmy.world · 14 points

Not just Tesla, spaceX and starlink too. EU govs are looking for alternatives

u/PotatoLibre@feddit.it · 11 points

Protect something he repeatedly smashed with his own nazi stunts. Good luck to him.

u/psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 5 points

Melon Husk now realise he doesn't always get to hold the controller.

u/Mihies@programming.dev · -2 points

Sure and how did it go when Orange flatly rejected it? I'm sure Orange will now think twice before slapping more tariffs?

u/Mihies@programming.dev · -5 points

Well, he was responding to my criticism of EU indirectly hence my question which he can't answer for some reason - rather he is not saying anything, not sure why the reply.

u/killeronthecorner@lemmy.world · 24 points

I'm not saying anything, I'm just relaying what the German economy minister said in context because you didn't read it.

u/atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 7 points

So you're saying that the EU is amazing and everything they do is correct and good?

It's easy when you can just make-pretend what other people say!

u/Mihies@programming.dev · -18 points

So, you are saying, EU is doing a great courageous job proposing no tariffs after Orange attacked EU and whole world with tariffs first?

u/Mihies@programming.dev · -4 points

I would stay with absolute stupidity until proven there are hidden more complex interests there. But sure, it's not impossible.

u/Mihies@programming.dev · 1 points

It's all over media, ie https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/international-relations/eu-offers-zero-tariff-deal-to-us-but-prepares-for-trade-war/ar-AA1CsXUU

u/Lupus@feddit.org · 21 points

The EU started negotiations for a free trade agreement in 2015 during Obama, then the orange threw the proposal out in 2016.

Now in 2025 he imposed the tariffs, then announced he'd be willing to negotiate new trade terms and the EU opened the drawer and got out that proposal from 10 years ago.

Basically what the EU always wanted in the first place.

u/killeronthecorner@lemmy.world · 15 points

If you read the article you'd see he called it weakness because he's throwing it as a moaning soundbite during a meeting with European leaders; and if he had any stones he'd level it directly to Trump - like the EU did.

u/Ghyste@sh.itjust.works · 14 points

There was no need for tariffs in the first place. This was a unilateral trade war based on absolute stupidity on Donnie's part and the desire to crash the markets so the rich can buy up whatever they like at a discount.

u/victorz@lemmy.world · 2 points

I mean sure, if you're not interested in making deals, let's go all out on calling people out. Then I don't have any issue. 💪

u/victorz@lemmy.world · 1 points

I'm not saying the press shouldn't do their job, which is exactly what you say it is. That part I agree with. But Germany's economy minister is the one I was addressing.

u/PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat · 46 points

Believe it or not, some people think that the press’s job is to tell the truth about what’s going on, and people can deal with it however they deal with it.

u/JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world · 1 points

The minister is also a Conservative MAGA fan. This is the CDP.

The far right in SA/NZ/Australia are pro-EU. That's why they were so confused about Brexit.

Of course they would be pro-Europe, how could they be anything else ?

u/CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 5 points

The plan of those pulling Trump's strings is disruption, chaos, and damage.

Trump's plan is to wear the big boy pants and prove to everyone he's the biggest of boys.

u/SunshineJogger@feddit.org · 100 points

Trumps plan is disruption, chaos and damage.

Or just the largest scale market manipulation ever and he bought his self made dip. Then lift tarrifs again. Profit.

Though more likely hes either a saboteur or just utterly incompetent.

u/DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 19 points

It's a sign of greed. Musk wants to sell his Teslas and doesn't care about stepping all over Trump's "plans" for it.

I can't wait to see his reaction to that.

u/ThunderComplex@lemmy.today · 15 points

Elmo: How about 0 tariffs?

Habeck:

![](https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/c63cf44a-5588-431c-bd09-44ef98916150.webp)

u/MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 3 points

As we used to sing about South Africa We gotta keep the pressure on. We gotta keep the pressure on.

u/victorz@lemmy.world · -25 points

My god, don't call someone with a fragile ego "weak and afraid" if you want to negotiate with them ffs. Make them think they're doing the right thing!