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Schooled by Trump, Americans are learning to dislike their allies

c/world · u/cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 213 points

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u/CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 points

I mean, there were some very close calls. Trump already has one on the board as well.

Just like Germany, once it's already in power the movement won't necessarily die with the leader.

u/assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world · 10 points

The collapse of opportunities for the working class has lead to anger. The ruling capitalist elite have captured that anger and redirected it to innocent vulnerable people rather than allowing the anger to be correctly channeled towards them.

u/deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 4 points

If only Germany in 1939 was chock full of people with guns that could have killed Hitler earlier.

u/StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net · 0 points

What do you think that chart would show?

(Aside from a huge drop in democratic popularity following the anti-israel media blitz following the Oct 7 massacre)

Do you think Republicans are the only ones susceptible to propaganda?

u/uienia@lemmy.world · 3 points

I don't know. Russian anti-Ukraine propaganda has been pretty consistent for centuries.

u/Grungeehamster@lemmy.world · 8 points

I would say "How would they identify which one is American or Canadian" in a skirmish but I look at what happened to Ukraine

u/Buffalox@lemmy.world · 18 points

Just because Democrats are more resistant, they are not immune to propaganda.

u/sys110x@feddit.nl · 3 points

It's not a poll of Republicans, it's a poll of the US public and there's upticks in both camps.

To the rest of the world, it's not the United States of Republicans that are threatening Greenland and Canada, tearing up their own trade agreements, and shitting on allies. It's the United States of America.

Pointing at the other internal camp and implying 'It's not us, it's them' might help US residents sleep at night but it does nothing on the world stage.

u/tatann@lemm.ee · 1 points

We also have idiots with guns (and bombs)

Not sure if it's reassuring yet

u/pohart@programming.dev · 1 points

Who would it be, though? The closest I can think of is Jon Stewart. But he doesn't seem to agree with the neoliberal establishment about much.

u/NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 1 points

They think they don't, but many/most of them worship the neoliberal political establishment in a weird abusive relationship kind of way. Listen to your average high-information liberal talk about Gaza dissent in the 2024 election and you'll see what I mean. Around here saying that the Democrats needed to change course or they'd lose was enough to get you branded as a Russian troll.

u/Kolanaki@pawb.social · 4 points

Resentment towards how the world is *rightly* talking about US being fucking dumbasses, possibly?

u/NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 1 points

I mean fair enough but with that framework they'd only change their opinion of these places when *their* ideological leaders tell them to, which I don't think has happened yet.

u/A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 5 points

Thanks. It gets worse:

>"That's the purpose of it, and they've done a good job of it. **But now I'm president.**"

This is who Trump is. Thinks he is. Strongman. But alas, he's fighting windmills. And by fighting them, he makes those peaceful windmills fight back. Which then retroactively justifies his paranoia that the world is against him? Stop the sanewashing. This person belongs in an asylum.

u/A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 33 points

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP repeatedly claims that the European Union was “formed in order to screw the United States”.

I thought I was immune to the insanity, but I'm flabbergasted again. Did he really say that?

u/WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 65 points

The feeling is mutual. The majority of people in the EU are downgrading USA to "necessary partner" now and one fifth sees USA as an ally. Two thirds feels cooperation should be reduced.

Well played Putin, well played.

u/prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 42 points

Fucking brain dead... Trump can't even string a coherent sentence together, yet it's enough to convince these mouth breathers to turn on Canada?

u/collapse_already@lemmy.ml · 40 points

Meanwhile I am learning to dislike my fellow Americans to the point where I am starting to think violence might be the only viable solution.

u/OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca · 37 points

And this is why everyone who says "they won't invade Canada because too many people like us" are sadly mistaken. Trump constantly tells them how nasty we are and the media has started its disinformation to lay the groundwork for invasion.

u/MonsterMonster@lemmy.world · 34 points

*PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP repeatedly claims that the European Union was “formed in order to screw the United States”. Canada, America’s northern neighbour and second-largest trading partner, is “one of the nastiest countries”. Russia was “doing what anyone would do” when it bombed Ukraine’s energy infrastructure during a pause in American intelligence sharing. Our polling with YouGov shows how this rhetoric is reshaping people’s opinions about their countries’ allies.*

u/RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works · 31 points

A lot of Americans are poorly educated in international relations and politics and genuinely do not understand the fallout of Trump’s choices/statements. We sadly will all suffer to some degree because of this ignorance

u/MyOpinion@lemm.ee · 18 points

You mean MAGAts hate our allies. Decent humans love other decent humans.

u/seven_phone@lemmy.world · 10 points

Where is the line for enemies separating you from your allies so they will not be there when you need them?

u/Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works · 6 points

So the data shows explicitly that it's not Americans but Republicans but well just go ahead and generalize.

Fantastic journalism.

u/ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world · 5 points

Thing is, I don't care if an idiot doesn't like me. I know whatever reasons he has are invalid.

u/Redex68@lemmy.world · 4 points

Interesting that for Democrats Canada has had more "unfriendly" responses than the EU even before the sanctions. Maybe because the EU is less relevant to them since Canada directly borders the US?