Trump announces 'permanent' tariffs on foreign cars

He's permanently a person for a very very long randomly sized amount of time that is shorter than 100years and longer than 1 second. It could be a heart condition or covid in a week or next year on good Friday. Who knows. But it won't be 100 more. My guess is 5 to 10 more. He'll be litigating the entire time.

They just need a metric to wave in the face of their very stupid voter base. If they don’t get any, they’ll make some up. They absolutely do not care if this policy successfully results in the stated intended effect.

So Ford gets taxed while the “import” brand doesn’t. Another well thought out policy by this administration. My “foreign” car was built in Alabama.

Under normal circumstances the car which crosses a border.

don't forget shit quality

American cars are already near impossible to sell in Europe. Terrible fuel economy, to large and bad turning radius for European cities with small roads, things like cyber trucks and other oversized pickups are probably not road legal because of pedestrian crash safety regulations.

Nobody wants American cars. I guess up until recently Tesla was the exception, but that was already changing before Musk decided to go full mask off.

Unfortunately I do see them (a bit) in the Netherlands... Something them being a tax loophole for entrepreneurs (but they're supposedly closing it). Definitely niche though, indeed the emotional support vehicles are the big German SUVs...

You barely see any pick up trucks in Europe (or at least in Austria). I know like one or two farmers who have one and that's it.

People who like big cars buy SUVs here.

Those are even legal in Europe? Some dude imported one here, as an impulse buy, as he had won a large money prize on Euro Millions, and it had the nastiest of ends, as he jammed the thing between two building in a narrow street. The car was cut to pieces on the spot, to be removed. The rumour mill spoke of nearly 75.000€ to the trash.

NL has supposedly cracked down on the tax loophole which made these attractive to b entrepreneurs (something about imported vehicles), so hopefully we start seeing less of them over time.

In poland theres more of them each month. I fucking hate it so much.

Assholes in „rural” areas (10mins to city center) buy them and then parade in their fucking tanks.

They are always the most polished and detailed cars on the intersection. I drive a larger car myself (not a suv, a big coupe) but it looks like a toy compared to a dodge ram. Those fuckers wouldn’t even be able to see a matiz in front of them.

There's one in the garage of my apartment building. All i can think about when I see it is what a giant douche bag you have to be to buy something like that while living in a big city.

I live in a small rural town in Ireland. I'm seeing more and more ridiculously huge pickups that are simply too big for the parking spots.

They're fucking awful

I think you think this thread is talking about the cybertruck but they're just talking about regular pick up trucks.

I saw a bunch in the Netherlands (in smaller towns and villages) and a few in Czechia.

Yeah. An ex coworker of mine deemed it necessary to drive such a wankpanzer in our medium-sized german city over the astonishing distance of 5 kilometres to/from work.

Do we actually have clowns buying them over here? I didn't even think they were road legal anywhere

They are already tariffed af. Due to emissions.

The F-150 is imported into Europe, but you can not buy them at normal Ford dealerships, because they are so unpopular. Indeed most Fords sold in Europe are actually designed in Germany....

Yeah, you're correct. That's actually my point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kia_design_and_manufacturing_facilities#Georgia_Plant_(KMMG)

Edit: oh, I see, you’re correcting that Hyundai/Kia is not Japanese. Ok. Sorry, I was listing a bunch of Japanese companies and slipped on that.

It's on both, but just learned that apparently it won't impact the parts that going back and forth across the border. It looks like those additional tariffs which will affect it are still planned on April 2nd.

Is the tariff on cars, or parts? Or have they not figured that part out yet?

Anyone that has worked in automotive manufacturing can confirm. Most of the material comes packaged in boxes "shipped from" Mexico or China. It's assembled in the US and so they say "Made in the U.S.A."

You know what cars aren't manufactured in the USA? American cars. I drive a fusion and the only part I could find that wasn't made in Mexico was the radio.

Yeah, and because of NAFTA to build a car, parts were going across the border multiple times back and forth. So with tariffs that can increase the price much more.

Hyundai and Kia are Korean

So do several German manufacturers. Most of the BMW X cars are assembled in America.

Yeah, but the quality is noticably better on the cars with J VINs. I have made sure every car I've ever gotten was built in Japan.

Yup, that's why I avoid them too. My current car was made with quality and care in Japan, as will my next car.

A lot of Japanese cars are made in the US. Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Subaru, Mazda, Hyundai and Kia all have manufacturing facilities in the US.

"by shaking hands" https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/white-house-says-large-bruise-trumps-hand-shaking-hands-day-every-day-rcna193652

The rumors say that he gets blood thinners due to his age.

I think IV catheters can cause skin discoloration, and the hand is a common place to put catheters. And he's an old bag of shit, he's probably in and out of hospitals as often as golf courses.

My first thought that he put some really bad makeup on his hand...

`hes bruising like Mitch mcconnel, except lichs hand is already deadm

How does a human skin turn green? Is he so old and expired that fungus is forming under that?

His hand kind of looks brown like rotting meat.

He doesn’t have the upper body strength for a full heil.

He has to hide the back of his hand, because the super healthy old man is not so healthy.


He's just showing Americans it's fisting time.

I always see it as him unknowingly showing solidarity for the African community

But it's truly not his fault for real!

Or we start seeing rampant smuggling

But you see its the democrats fault...somehow. I'm sure the next president will be a Republican

The Trump admin is doing its best to make sure that the US can no longer be measured. Those measures hit climate research and economics research both.

Trumpcession will kick in and hopefully kill the republican party.

Is he really doing that stupid fist all the time?

Please europe, I beg you. 100% tariff on those fucking emotional support trucks.

Im going to start blowing them up soon otherwise.

Still not buying American trash cars. Of all the vehicles I've ever owned, American cars were by far the worst. I'll stick to my Japanese autos thank you very much. They know how to make a reliable car that punches above its class. I don't give two shits if I have to pay a tariff.

So what defines a “foreign” car? BMW builds the X3 in South Carolina and VW builds their SUVs in Tennessee. However Ford builds the Bronco in Mexico. So which one will be tariffed?

Lol good luck with that.

Mhm pay 25% more for a good car or buy a swasticar...

Toyota builds Camry, Avalon, RAV4, and Lexus in Georgetown, KY.

If it means foreign brands, that will fuck over a lot of red state workers, if he means foreign built, maybe not.

Reciprocal tariffs on American cars honestly sounds like a pretty good idea now...

Curious and difficult times ahead.