‘American Pie’ actress says she was detained by ICE while trying to renew her work visa: ‘I have never in my life seen anything so inhumane’

It said: "Go back to reddit with your violent calls to action."

What did it say?

Wow, every single word in that sentence was wrong.

Go back to reddit with your violent calls to action.

Yeah fuck her for being treated like shit cause she's got more money than me, she should totally be fucking tortured like she did.

Dumbass.

Jasmine Mooney

The same one who is mostly in smaller budget productions? The same "millionaire" actress who does not even have a wikipedia page? That one? The same one that does not even show up on any "net worth" lists?

What's it like being a crab in a bucket?

Reminder that you're closer to a millionaire than a millionaire is to a billionaire.

Corpo media barely talks about it unfortunately. I'm enraged but most of the population has no idea

Wait, what? How in the fuck is there no outrage about this? Do Americans really do give this little of a fuck?

I found it very uplifting that in her own written piece, she spent much of it highlighting and telling the stories of others. Sure, it's unfortunate that this has made the headlines due to her being a white woman, but what she does with the spotlight is admirable.

The part that I learned the most from. I had no idea the detention centers were for profit:

The reality became clear: Ice detention isn’t just a bureaucratic nightmare. It’s a business. These facilities are privately owned and run for profit.

Companies like CoreCivic and GEO Group receive government funding based on the number of people they detain, which is why they lobby for stricter immigration policies. It’s a lucrative business: CoreCivic made over $560m from Ice contracts in a single year. In 2024, GEO Group made more than $763m from Ice contracts.

The more detainees, the more money they make. It stands to reason that these companies have no incentive to release people quickly. What I had experienced was finally starting to make sense.

You're getting downvoted but it's important that we remember this. She's hot, she's white, she's an actress. She said herself she thinks it's thanks to her friends and family working with the media that she got released at all. I bet she'd agree with you that being white played into her favor here.

Think about all the people who don't have those types of resources or public empathy points. We have no idea who is actually locked up right now or what will happen to them.

In white supremacist circles it means "Heil Hitler". H being the eighth letter of the alphabet.

You implied they were a Nazi, I'm not surprised by some bruskness if the accusation was entirely off the mark.

Oh so just unpleasant then.

It's just a number. You can make it out to be whatever you want but it's literally just the year I was born. I guess we should crucify every person born in 88. What an idiot.

And not many of them utlize it in a screen name.

what is 88 tied to?

Hopefully their birth year

Some people were born in 1988, also.

Hey man, what's with the 88? You do know what that is tied to right?

Where are they being detained and tortured again?

I think it's spelled "Murican"

They prefer americans

Yeah this fucking country needs to finally be where it deserves to be on a geopolitical stage. Thankfully Russia's best puppet who got elected by that idiocracy is doing his best to make sure other nations manage to get themselves less addicted to America's bullshit.

The idiots here are the ICE agents.

10-to-1 they had no idea what to do when a Canadian citizen showed up at the Mexican borderder.

The real scary shit is in the last line:

After her release, Mooney credited media attention and her support network for securing her freedom.

How many people don't have that luxury?

Like, not every lawful immigrant is a C-list actress best known for an American Pie spinoff that didn't even have Stiffler. Surely several are falling through the cracks.

This has got me concerned that a statistically significant number of people who don't have that kind of reach are just...disappearing...

To some degree though that's exactly why this should be more alarming: the current administration ISN'T just doing this to easy targets they know the population will ignore. If they're doing this to a nice white Canadian woman instead of brown people they can easily disappear without being noticed, that means they're getting a lot braver.

But the average dumbass ~~care~~ worships ~~more about~~ celebrities

They should, but anecdotes featuring a person you somehow know beyond the specific situation are more potent.

I don't know if I'd call her a 'celebrity'

She was in "American Pie, the book of love." The 9th movie in the Pie series and direct to dvd.

Though she's getting a lot of attention now, and if hawk tuah girl can become a millionaire off a sloppy bj, good luck to Jasmine!

When it comes to the people that still don't care, I figure they won't care until it happens to them directly.

Vast majority of immigration detention centers are privately owned

It's a sharp contrast to private prisons where it's less than 10%.

Fair enough.

It draws massive media attention.

Who's gonna make them pay you?

You could get state or federal payments. But the main purpose is to get it in the news

Okay. Say you do that and you win.

What next? California can't make them pay you damages.

If the executiv branch doesn't cooperate, that's the end of it.

The Courts power ultimately means nothing is the executive branch doesn't *execute*.

You can sue for false imprisonment and other stuff I'm sure. Shouldn't be too hard to win in California, especially if her green card was valid when she was taken.

The rest of the government isn't though

this. the system is broken. the DOJ is owned. trump et al are above the law. they knew going in that the entire charade only operates under the threat of violence and they currently have a monopoly on that. if you don't have stock in violence, you don't have a place at the table. we all need to buy some stock.

They're ignoring the courts. What will suing do when there's nobody enforcing the ruling when you "win"?

Sue? Make red the color of year.

What will that do and how will it help all of the people in her same position?

On the other hand, if you have undocumented people working at that restaurant, best not to draw any unneeded attention to the staff by law enforcement.

@faithrada • 5y ago (edited)

The name SARAH FABIAN is now tarnished FOREVER. Just doing your job hu? Well... karma will surely do its job.

You can NOT defend that which is undefendable and expect to get away with it. I've met DOGS with a MUCH HIGHER Moral Standard than you. What an embarrassment to humanity. Sickening.

One of the comments on that YouTube video link. Her name will forever go down as filth and disgust. To argue over toothbrush, toothpaste and a warm blanket is wild!

Yeah. Imo, extra painful because you can tell that she knows what she's arguing for is wrong. Not only does she know she should be ashamed, on some level, deep down in there, she *is* ashamed, and *she's there arguing for it anyway.*

Holy fuck this is painful

I hate the fucking title of this video so fucking much it pains me to share it, but this is really the best cut, IMO. There's also the full hour version on YouTube if you search "9th circuit Sarah Fabian".

https://youtu.be/0QGLh7JOQHc

Enjoy!

Christ with a bejeweled handbag, does somebody have a link to the juicy transcript?

It's called torture.

Jesus Christ, they already tried that shit with the lights in Trump I and the 9th circuit told them to fucking stop it. I distinctly remember because one of the judges was in a Japanese internment camp as a kid, and he ate that dipshit Trump attorney alive.

And yet, here we are again.

WTF

Edit: Americans need to be on the street for this shit and everything else that’s happening

I don’t care how, just get that dictator out of there

Those are some psychological mind games right there

Rest assured that I have other valuable and relevant skills.

oh well. i guess there's nothing else you can do but put your head under the boot.

Not sure I'd pass the background check for that in CA. Years ago I had an unfortunate reaction to a new medication, suffered hallucinations from it, and was involuntarily committed for a few days (I was fully out of it) while I recovered. It's all documented.

guns

but they’re checking off demographics at an alarming rate.

yeah those two arab protestor students that are getting deported- they're essentially getting detained and eventually removed because they spoke out against Israel. it's an attempt to put a damper on speech for the whole country. sort of sending a message to immigrants- you better watch what you're saying or we will get you

Reminds me of that shitstain Beria from Death of Stalin

"I have lists on all of you!"

Saw an article today about a French scientist who was denied entry to the US after their phone was searched and texts critical of Trump were found.

and if people don't think political dissidents are on the list, they're delusional. we may not be the priority yet, but they're checking off demographics at an alarming rate.

I think they were trying to make a joke and failed

What does this mean?

Like I said. Same leopards. Green card holders just didn't think leopards would eat *their* faces.

The US has had these internationally illegal and abusive practices for a long time now. It has a whole infrastructure for it.

I've never heard stories of people with green cards getting sent to camp prisons though before.

Fair haha

Either.

Which one?

But not its own citizens. I'm aware of US war crimes and torture. I was never aware of camps holding legal immigrants

They were not in fact referencing Gitmo, they were talking about other prisons

I didn't see the comment, but my guess is they were likely referring to Gitmo or El Nuevo Chipote.

Do you think these prisoners are being sent outside the country so they can be treated humanely?

of course everyone thinks they're the good guys. no one thinks they're the villain, but you and i know who the good guys are, right? no? well, you can end up in a pile with the rest of my enemies.

you don't get it, do you? whoever wins the war we are in gets to decide who the good guys were. there is no compromise. there never could be. it's always been a war. and it will be over when one side capitulates. don't be on the losing team.

you think the other side won't do whatever it takes to win? they're doing it now. do you want them to win? then you need to be prepared to do whatever it takes to stop them. THIS IS HOW WARS WORK. don't think we're in one? you're delusional.

Everyone thinks they're the good guys. The people of the US cast GW Bush, then Obama, now Trump in the good guy seat and these tools were on the table.

The whole problem with your philosophy of "the ends justify the means" is that that way of thinking is in itself an existential threat to humanity.

it's okay when the good guys do it. it's not ok when our enemies do it. goose and gander comparisons should never be made if it justifies your opposition. i'm just trying to get people to understand how wars work. "by any means necessary" is what it takes to win. if the victory defeats an existential threat to humanity, then whatever it took to do it was justified.

Those "messy solutions" are real convenient for White America I've noticed. I wonder how willing you'd be to accept "collateral damage" if it was your hospitals and weddings getting bombed.

This is liberal garbage and a huge part of the reason America is so hated.

the point is that it takes messy solutions sometimes. we need to come to peace with that if we want to truly resist the current administration. you can't stay on your high horse forever if you want to survive.

They're attempting to justify the unjustifiable.

They're polite and calm about it, you're correct. But those words pertain to how information is transmitted, not something that can be used to consider the morality of the information contained therein.

Do not confuse a kind way of saying horrible things as making the horrible things not horrible.

People are less likely to listen to your point of view if you don't approach them in good faith. I wish Democrats would learn this lesson.

Huh? That other person seems calm and respectful too. What do you mean?

i'm not disagreeing with you. i'm just trying to bring some nuance to some of the statements that have been made.

and you keep saying that is was an authorized assassination, which is not true. it was collateral damage.

You can defend him all you like, I voted for him too but he's still part of the problem

I don't think bombing campaigns in WWII are comparable to a president ordering illegal assassinations of American citizens by fiat.

You can justify it to yourself if you like, but it's not an opinion that these crimes have normalized the activities of Donald Trump. (Though it was a 20+ year process that, IMHO, started with George W. Bush and 9/11)

You're more respectful then the person you are responding to deserves.

do i really need to explain the nuance of this to you?

was it idealistically right? no.

was it acceptable collateral damage in war? yes.

we firebombed entire civilian cities in WWII and we were the good guys. perspective is important.

EDIT: i do agree with you about how we have allowed the power of the executive branch to expand to a point that is now a crisis, but i will still defend obama as a president.

Respectfully, Obama literally ordered the assassination of an American citizen.

Obama was an essential part of normalizing these extra-legal power grabs and the authoritarian state, and this is partly why Trump is able to get away with similar crimes.

>the terrorist kill list was a little shady, but it was effective

This is "effective" as well. For Musk/Trump.

Doesn't make it okay.

That's horseshit used to justify sweeping your mistakes under the rug

your original statement is correct, but i feel the need to speak up on behalf of obama.

the terrorist kill list was a little shady, but it was effective (although messy).

we really need to embrace the power of martial force for good. the good guys can't always take the high road. sometimes there is no better solution than to just apply a hammer.

No, it's just at home now. The CIA has been torturing people in black sites around the globe for decades now. If anything, those conditions were far worse, since it doesn't seem like any migrants detained are getting waterboarded yet.

I guess you just slept through the War on Terror, then.

Google torture under George Bush.

It's the same thing, only the leopards have turned around and started eating a different set of faces.

One of the comments compared US prisons to Dachau, reason has fled and fallen out of a high window

no this is very new....

And there are numerous European/German companies who have already have put a hold on all US travel for their staff. Some critical infrastructure/defence companies even seek to implement "not even for vacation" clauses for their management levels.

The German government is openly considering a travel warning. Which would fuck over things a lot because then a) employers can hardly make their staff go to the US anymore b) most travel insurance companies won't cover the US anymore with their standard plans (it's already more expensive due to the insane healthcare costs) and require individual high risk country plans - which are a lot of paperwork and everything.

This will fuck over the US royally - because even if Trump wants to push US based manufacturing these factories need equipment. And this equipment is really not produced in the US much - it comes from Europe/Japan if you want the best and China if you are interested in the "cheap" stuff.

But now it will come with either a hefty surcharge (think like double the price - or more) or not come at all because it's not worth the hazzle.

Especially for factory equipment, healthcare (there are already a lot of medical product manufacturers who simply do not serve the US market due to the insane costs to access it with little to gain) and pharma this is very relevant.

And a message

They're banking on that happening so they can cry terrorism and swing emergency powers into full effect in response. Then they won't even have to detain you they can just shoot you on the spot. They're soft rolling the ethnic cleansing right now but if people start fighting back against it they'll probably stomp the accelerator on it.

Precisely.

"Come to the US, the land of the fuck you."

That's a good way for cruelty to come back around. Abuse a hundred thousand people and see if a few don't snap and take it out on those responsible. Seems like domestic terrorism may not be just a right wing hobby for too much longer. Bet authorities suddenly take it more seriously if that does happen.

Absolutely. They're handling scenarios this way to scare people and demonstrate cruelty.

Seriously , that’s what happened? I was going to say, the article wasn’t clear on whether there was actually a problem but it sounds like not

It tracks. They captured a German tourist with a valid passport and held her for over a month instead of sending her back. The cruelty is the point.

Like. It wouldn't even hurt your hand. Look at the fluffy thing.

Such a punchable face.

You have to say pwease and tank you, missus moodey


Thanks!

The original Fallout intro. Worth seeing the whole thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG3uBgQmTnk

At least the writing will get decent for about 80 years.

At this point the bombs can only bring improvements.

I don't recognize this one. What's it from?

Makes sense

White, some level of fame, voluntarily coming in from the “right” side of the border, had some sort of paperwork, her work visa apparently hadn’t yet expired?

How many other people have been kidnapped who we haven't heard about?

Far too many

My point still stands. How many other people have been kidnapped who we haven't heard about? She's an actor so she has more media access than most people.

Canada has been hearing about it since the day the US government agents kidnapped her.

 

Yes, I intentionally chose those specific words.

Yes and it also raises visibility for the very real issues that people have raised concerns about. It's one thing to detain and/or deport people without proper documentation. It's another to act as though people with the proper documentation who are abiding the laws are also being detained and/or deported. Say nothing for the US citizens who are also being detained and/or deported.

No, but I suspect the last line qualifies it's inclusion, where her"status" and presence in the media field gave her an opportunity to amplify her story and provide the visibility it needed to get her freed.

You're only hearing about her because she has media connections in the first place.

I don't want to minimise her suffering but I'm sure there are many other people in similar situations that we haven't heard about.

Variety is an Entertainment Magazine, so it's relevant for their readers. If you read a news article about this, they don't mention her work history so much, except as it relates to the business she recently opened in the States.

Non-entertainment news source from last week here.

....such and such, a dental assistant masseuse's moral support assistant....

At that point does it even matter? Like, if she were working another profession would they put it in the headline?

Looks like it was in one of the spin off movies

>Officials allegedly told her she was "unprofessional because I didn't have a proper letterhead" on her paperwork.

How dare her paperwork not wear a suit!

I'm confused, did she even try to cross the border or was she just there to renew her visa? Why not just send her back for fuck's sake?

Edit:

Okay, if I understood it correctly, she was already in the US and had a valid visa, which was about to expire. Her lawyer told her to go to the border to renew it, and as she was working in LA, that was the nearest border crossing. This makes it even more insane.

I think I've figured out what timeline we're in.


She spent 11 days detained.

“I was put in a cell, and I had to sleep on a mat with no blanket, no pillow, with an aluminum foil wrapped over my body like a dead body for two and a half days,” *[...]* “I have never in my life seen anything so inhumane.”

>She went on to describe one incident when she and 30 other women were moved in the middle of the night to a facility in Arizona. During the ordeal, she was forced to be “up for 24 hours wrapped in chains.”

From CBC.CA (Eagles is her mother's surname):

Eagles said the detainees at the San Luis facility have no sleeping mats or blankets or windows, and the lights are on all day and night.

The family's using her traumatic experience to publicize the inhumane conditions at those 3 detention centres, and raise awareness for her cellmates. They talk about constant lighting (torture), being moved at 3am to a different state (fucking with your lawyer), being chained and overcrowded.

“There’s 30 other people in her cell that have not even been spoken to by a detention caseworker. So **there are people in there whose families don’t know where their kids are.**” - Jasmine’s father, Stephen Mooney, speaking on March 13th.

These conditions should be common knowledge, and this traumatized family is doing what they can on that front.

You and I are not more safe than she is. Our neighbours are not more safe than she is. Her escape does not make her the enemy of her cellmates. We're all Venezuelan gang members (or whoever it's ok to fuck with) if they take our papers and deem us so.

Non-entertainment news source here.

While the actress has some notoriety, huge part of the international trade relies on *short term work visa*. When Airbus builds a new factory in the US, or That a US factory chooses German industrial robots, you need to send people on short-term work visa to kickstart it.

Maybe some people will start to care more now that it's happening to celebrities

When this is happening to even the beautiful white women, you know shit's a thousand times worse for BIPOC... I know that we had issues with immigration during previous administrations, but they were nothing compared to this vile treatment.

Bunch of barbarians.

Are these the privately owned detention centers? All I can say the USA has several Dachau's and it could become worse.

These stories make me wish people hadn't reelected Bush and Obama when both made it very clear they were supportive of fascist policies like torture, extraordinary rendition, drone bombings without accountability, permanent imprisonment, etc.

None of this is new. It's just louder now.

She was in American Pie?

At this point, why does anyone even want/try to get into the usa if something like this is a big possibility to happen?

MacNamara's 100,000 idiots programme during Vietnam War wasn't a success, so the next best thing for them is to institute the programme domestically and with intended results.

Those people have been storing up their hatred for 150 years, passing to each new generation. Only way to combat it is to eradicate it at the source

sue.

Oh, i'm pretty sure she has already seen inhumane treatment like this, just not up close.

That happens when your country goes cray cray, suddenly you are not watching the news, but are in it.

(not to belittle her experience, no doubt it was terrible, but I DO take offence at the "never seen anything so inhumane" though.

And then this one time, in Gitmo...

That's terrible, but let's be real. The only reason why this is news is because she's a white woman.

Try being a federal employee lol.

of course pie would be American.

Inhumane treatment to someone like her is probably how a blue collar worker is treated in everyday life in the states. Must suck to be a millionaire actress with connections. To be treated like a pawn like the rest of us.