US and Ukraine Hatch 'Ceasefire' Travesty

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Thanks for clarifying that you don't understand what slippery slope fallacy is.

It's a slippery slope fallacy to suggest that supporting Ukraine means that they will be enlisted and sent to the front lines.

Nah, it's not a slippery slope to suggest that people who want wars should fight in them. It's funny how brave y'all are when it's other people dying for your ideology.

far down the slippery slope on this one.

Murca fucked it up. Same story.

Cowardly bombing a country is not 'fighting a war'

Even then, like the ukranians you mostly used a proxy, the Kurds and other local factions to do the fighting for you.

And in good american tradition you threw them under the bus later.

@yogthos@lemmy.ml

Indeed, it was Russia that enabled the other allies to land on D-Day. The eastern front occupied the best German troops. One would never know this if reading Anglo-Saxon history, though. Sad.

@BombOmOm@lemmy.world @commander@lemmings.world @60d@lemmy.ca

Not even. The Soviets won that war for them, they came in late like the vultures they are to reap the rewards.

The US was a minor player in WW2 as well to be fair.

Hasn't won any wars with unlimited objectives. Where there is no clear end goal, because regime change and installing a friendly government isn't really clear and actionable.

The first Gulf War had limited objectives, was a massive success and took only 6 months.

@60d@lemmy.ca

The USA hasn't won a single war since WW2.

@yogthos@lemmy.ml

It's the same story every time. Eventually, the US realizes that the proxy war has become a sunk cost and leaves their proxy to hang.

And Murca fucked that up too.

The regime the west is supporting in Ukraine is precisely in the position the south Vietnamese regime was.

You mean Vietnam? Why are you mentioning it?

So did Viet Nam, right?

Years of pumping Ukraine full of cutting edge western weapons to the point of bringing both the EU's and US's weapon stockpile dangerously low couldn't stop Russia, there isn't anything the west can do to stop Russia.

hope you're ready to go fight in Ukraine

and surges support to Ukraine to force Russia to stop their invasion.

How? Ukraine will need troops from additional armies in order to win against Russia.

@BombOmOm@lemmy.world I doubt very much that the USA could stop the Russians, even if they wanted too.

They are going backward WITH their weapons and have to kidnap kids and granddads off the streets.

Tell me genius, how exactly are they going to "stop their invasion". Are you still living in your 2022 Russia is running out of arms and gas fantasy?

It will end when the fascists are defeated, orange man or anyone else has no say in this and can't do shit about that.

Amazing operation BTW from Russia going 15K in a gaspipe and then destroying and capturing what's left of the Banderites.

Somehow you don't show that in your cringe combat videos.

No wonder you live in a fantasy world.

Is the ghost of kiev coming back too?

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Lmao even the usually 0% critical about Ukraine Polish media had a little pause over this truly nonsensical pseudodiplomatic farce. Fortunately for them it was a *little* pause and the script was soon followed up as before with a more pressure in voice.

Anyone who thought that Trump wouldn't be just another imperialist of the same variety as Biden has egg on their face. Great man theory bunk yet again.

The boxer on the ropes and his trainer deciding to have an extra time-out.

Surely the other boxer must accept or he is clearly not of good will.

And the exact same "ball in Russia's court" tweets LOL

EU crying about not being taken seriously and demanding respect.

Here they are again reading what the note says dictated by their US masters.

Pathetic clowns

"Faux pas" - you day didn't smile while eatng the poop that we served you.

Love how an attack on russian soil is somehow a provocation. Mfers, you are at war. Sorry to inconvenience you.

I don't expect the invader to accept a proposal to stop their invasion. Hopefully Trump realizes this soon and surges support to Ukraine to force Russia to stop their invasion.

Trump immediately announced all previous restrictions on weapons aid and intel sharing to be lifted from Ukraine

Seems he is half-way there in doing what needs to be done to stop Russia's invasion.

This article seems to be based around an assumption that the entire story of what is going on in Ukraine is obvious on its face. What is obvious is that the level of smoke and mirrors employed in this situation is on a generational scale. There are adults who were not alive to witness the last time we witnessed this level of obfuscation, control of the narrative, and use of the age old tactic of distraction

Besides all of that, this article seems to pick and choose its obvious points and disregard many others

All of that is to say that this is part of the overall effort, a position which is further supported by the fact that this article is printed by the esteemed simplicius. You know, that renowned author of insightful commentary that we all know so well