Trump says the U.S. will take control of Greenland 'one way or the other'
c/europe · u/throws_lemy@lemmy.nz · 10 points
c/europe · u/throws_lemy@lemmy.nz · 10 points
u/NotLemming@lemm.ee · 1 points
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u/angrystego@lemmy.world · 1 points
I actually really hope Europe, or at least some parts of it, will have the balls to protect themselves when the shit hits the fan. The idea of capitulation in the name of peace is becoming uncomfortably popular.
u/qyron@sopuli.xyz · 0 points
Also. Somehow, I have this feeling Europe is on the way to dust off the guns, after nearly - what? - 70 years. Hopefully, I'm wrong. I sincerely want to be.
u/angrystego@lemmy.world · 0 points
Yeah, I'm expecting the US to start sending troops at some point - but not to help Ukraine.
u/qyron@sopuli.xyz · 0 points
Let us wait and see for how much longer that remains. Russia is resorting to mercenaries (don't really know what else to call the north korean in the scenario). At some point, either Ukraine pushes back with enough force to end the conflict or other countries will start sending troops there, even if for nothing else besides urban security to relive more national troops to the front lines.
u/angrystego@lemmy.world · 0 points
Nuclear weapons are not meant for a nuclear conflict really, they're used as a deterrent, and it works. Look how the world is scared shitless of helping Ukraine directly despite Russian army not being too strong - but Russia has nukes.
Edit: Also see noone wanting a conflict with North Korea.
u/qyron@sopuli.xyz · 0 points
Let's take that hot air argument off the table.
Escalating into nuclear conflict is a total loss scenario. The first one pressing a button would trigger a chain reaction that would render the planet an irradiated rock. Nobody gains anything.
Nuclear armament is the last hidding place for fragile egos and we would be very fortunate if after this insanity streak there was a complete nuclear global disarmament.
u/anonproxy00@lemm.ee · 1 points
This behavior was always the assumption. Trump voters know it, and the ones down here are still flyin them flags. These lead brained fucks just dont care no more. real pity havin to watch family loose their better selfs to this fascist nonsense. These same fuckers think themselfs some harolds of freedom, dispite chearing on the deportation of g-d fearn Americans based on ethnicity. Real shame to see.
aint shits been changed round here in 200 years it seems.
u/pjwestin@lemmy.world · 0 points
It's fucking insane. Even MAGAs didn't vote for this. He just suddenly started talking about taking over Greenland and making Canada a state between the election and the inauguration, and the billionaires are just trying to extract whatever wealth they can out of our government before grandpa drives the car into a ditch.
u/Pilferjinx@lemmy.world · 1 points
I feel like if they make good on their threat of exiting NATO we'll soon see the US invade an "ally"
u/starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml · -1 points
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u/M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 0 points
Prepare for a lot of fake Canadians.
Easy test, make fun of the usa in front of them. Any Canadian worth their salt will join in (more so now a days), but most americans can not seem to do so without mentioning weird colours and parties.
u/leftytighty@slrpnk.net · 1 points
Yes, my point is you can Thanos snap Trump and Putin out of existence today and if you make no other changes then fascism will still be here or will rise again soon.
Economic and political change is needed
u/jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 0 points
Putin didn’t compromise 47 million Americans into voting for fascism.
Nah, he conned them into it. But does the difference matter?
u/leftytighty@slrpnk.net · 0 points
This oversimplification is how the world will learn nothing from this. Putin didn't compromise 47 million Americans into voting for fascism.
Major political and economic change is needed. How many times does fascism have to materialize exactly as leftists have predicted before people start reevaluating the economic system that creates Elon Musks.
u/HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth · 0 points
Russia already own the US that why all of this happen now
u/M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 2 points
If they bring their own small train, that one fjord is done for.
u/8fingerlouie@lemmy.world · 2 points
Touché.
Its going to be a small invasion using that though.
u/M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 0 points
no railroads
Well that is not *technically* true

u/8fingerlouie@lemmy.world · 0 points
It is also mostly ice.
The entirety of the central Greenland is covered by 1.6km to 3.7km thick ice.
Settlements are around the coast, as Greenland has about 100km roads in total, no railroads and no inland water.
u/bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 0 points
To be fair even on a globe Greenland is still massive. Just not quite as bad on Mercator.

u/SplashJackson@lemmy.ca · -1 points
I believe the correct term these days is Personchuria
u/gnutrino@programming.dev · 0 points
I don't see how thawing seas help China unless they're planning on retaking Outer Manchuria from Russia?
u/federalreverse@feddit.org · 0 points
To be fair, China has been investing in thawing sea routes for a while, though largely to free themselves from having to pass through the US-controlled South China Sea.
u/grue@lemmy.world · 2 points
Somebody's feeding him grandiose ideas about global warming and northern sea routes. Probably some flattering lies about splitting said routes between them and dominating world trade too, once Canada and the EU are out of the way.
u/Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world · 1 points
The assumption should never be that Trump wants a thing but that Putin wants it.
https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-s-arctic-militarization-behind-trump-s-focus-on-greenland/7946621.html
u/Lazycog@sopuli.xyz · 0 points
Damn you web mercator projection! If only Robinson projection was the default on google/apple/whatever trump uses -map.
u/Empricorn@feddit.nl · -1 points
*Putin* wants it. That's why this is happening.
u/dbkblk@lemmy.world · 1 points
Or USSR when they "liberated" Poland!
u/Bogasse@lemmy.ml · 1 points
What you mean is Greenland is playing with world war 3?
u/killingspark@feddit.org · 1 points
And I don't think Greenland ever thanked Trump for being such a good partner. Very disrespectful!
u/starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml · 3 points
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u/CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 points
It's not war when Trump does it. It's liberation.
That same liberation under a Democrat would have them begging the Hague to arrest the sitting president.
u/arschflugkoerper@feddit.org · 1 points
they can pry pepe from my cold dead hands
u/octopus_ink@lemmy.ml · 0 points
So far nazis have ruined the toothbrush moustache, the swastika, the Gadsen Flag, Pepe (no big loss there), the OK symbol, and are on their way to ruining the US flag since anymore I nearly only ever seen it flown next to a Trump flag.
Now they are going to ruin the raised fist too.
u/pjwestin@lemmy.world · 4 points
Kinda incredible how quickly he pivoted from, "We're gonna stop spending billions on all these wars," to, "Fuck it, I feel like invading Greenland."
u/CitizenKong@lemmy.world · 3 points
I'm still convinced he only wants Greenland because it looks big on a map.
u/Darkard@lemmy.world · 3 points
Just casually threatening war with NATO.
From Mr "yOuR ThReAtEnInG wOrLd WaR 3" less than a week ago
u/daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 points
I can't wait for the "Donald Trump hiding place" memes.
u/Geodad@lemm.ee · 2 points
This all could have been avoided if one dude had better aim. 😑
u/boreengreen@lemm.ee · 1 points
Looks like Denmark needs nukes.
u/SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 1 points
Trump is making it unsafe for Americans to travel across the globe. Seriously if he keeps making these hostile statements some person with mental health issues will snap and attack American tourists in Denmark.
u/illi@lemm.ee · 1 points
I always see photos of him with the fist raised like that. Looks like he chose his own salute. Not surprising at all, but seeing it is still both saddening and maddening
u/doodledup@lemmy.world · 0 points
This guy needs a reality check! Can somebody take over the US please?