u/doodledup

People are migrating in any country, and sometimes they come back as is the case for Germany.

Again, as I already said, quesionable methods: this study is based on interviews with emigrants. But how do you ask emigrants that have already emigrated and don't plan to come back? It doesn't matter anyways. The numbers speak for themselves. It doesn't matter whether they want to return or not, they are gone now.

Germany has managed to reverse its long-standing brain drain of the 2000s and early 2010s, and is now attracting more researchers than it is losing. “Germany is therefore on a favourable trajectory,” the report says.

I did not know we are gaining scientific researchers in particular. This is good. However, this is just researchers. I'm talking about academics in general and emigration of German citizens. High-paying qualified workers. I shared my sources about that from the Statistisches Bundesamt.

https://www.bamf.de/SharedDocs/Anlagen/DE/Forschung/Migrationsberichte/migrationsbericht-2023-kurzfassung.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=7

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Netto exodus of 80.000 German citizens per year. And that or similar has been going on for more than a decade. Apparently they all intent to come back right? At some point? If not during the past 10+ years then when exactly is all of that majority coming back?

Also, no, my sources contradict my claims only partly. And I already explained why it's nonsense: You can't ask already permanently emigrated people whether they want to return. And as I explained above: if the majority intends to return and that is reported every year, then the data from the past years doesn't coincide with that claim.

About the destination countries:

https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article253842704/20-Jahres-Tief-Immer-weniger-Deutsche-wandern-in-die-USA-aus.html

Switzerland, Austria and USA are the countries to go to, although USA less so than previously. And my 60% wasn't too wrong either.

You're misinformed if you think Germans aren't emigrating en masse for economic reasons.

Your response to end the discussion and blaming it on me is arrogant and it pisses me off.

So let me make it visual for you, so you can understand it better and we can finish this discussion:

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USA, Switzerland and Austria accounts for the majority of target countries. Around 60% if I remember correctly, correct me on that number if I'm wrong. Might be more than that. Emigration for economic reasons checks out though.

Kind of incentivises to do even less of what he wants.

1.1% growth basically means Germany is sucking it up big time. 1.1 is nothing.

Also, remind me in a year. It's probably going to be corrected again like every time. Nobody wants a panic, so they regularly invent some percentage numbers that are magically corrected every now and then by multiple percentage points.

Germany has major systematic problems. You can't deny that. It will only get worse in the next 30 years. Quoting some 1.1% growth for next year is a fucking joke.

"The fraction of the people that were asked". Who was asked? Also, how do you ask people that have already emigrated to another country and don't plan to come back? Questionable methods. I'm only interested in the hard facts.

You can turn and twist it as much as you want. Fact is, there is a netto exodus of academics for economic reasons. And this has been going on for a while and not just yesterday.

This is the most populistic response. You could share one source at least.

When you share sources you should address what I said and not post unrelated stuff like migrant workers amd students. They don't stay. I'm talking about *netto* emigration.

https://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/711093/abwanderung-arbeitsmarkt-junge-gutgebildete-deutsche-verlassen-das-land

https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/2019-12/bevoelkerungsforschung-auswanderer-akademiker-deutsche-studie

Germany is not coming back. The pension system, exodus of academics and high taxes on top of all of that will make it even worse in the near future.

What has this to do with being the aggressor?

I'm saying "no war without war crimes". And every country commits them. Look at WW2. The USA also commited war crimes.

You're basically saying that humans are not equal, like humans under autocrats are genetically built different to automatically commit war crimes.

Since you're asking for Ukraine war crimes specifically:

• Torture incident

• Care house attack without evacuating patients

• Captive Soldiers killed at close range

• Deliberately endangering civilians

Note that *independently* investigating war crimes while the war is still ongoing is very difficult. Most incidents usually surface after the war.

Exactly. War is a crime in itself. We should be talking about that and the crime Putin committed by invading.

Telegram is a Russian app and Durov is loyal to Russia.

No war without crime. Not surprised. I bet Ukraine isn't so guiltless either.

EU countries cannot freely print money; only the European Central Bank (ECB) has the authority to issue euro banknotes and manage monetary policy for the eurozone. Individual member states must adhere to strict fiscal rules and cannot create their own currency or print euros independently. Every country can sell bonds with a currency they don't control.

This is common knowledge.

This is not how this works. You can't just go ahead as an EU country and print as much Euro as you want. The ECB prints it, not your country. It's regulated in Brussels.

"Selling bonds" and not "printing money".

They don't print their own money.

Everyone is acting rationally except Germany. The usual.

Right. Tell that Argentinia, Greece or Ecuador.

Not surprising. Germany is the least desireble country to run a business or be an employee right now. And it's only going to get worse when the government goes bankrupt aswell. I'm already looking for migration opportunities.