White House directs officials to draft proposal to lift US sanctions on Russia

I can help. Trump, the fascist wannabe dictator is putins *removed*.

As Trudeau said at the top of his speech yesterday:

So today the United States launched a trade war against Canada, their closest partner and ally, their closest friend. At the same time, they’re talking about working positively with Russia, appeasing Vladimir Putin, a lying, murderous dictator.

Make that make sense.

Remember when the SS lost all of their communication records from Jan 6th?

Europe please be ready. My tea leaves are pointing towards the use of nuclear weapons in Europe while the us is distracted with civil unrest.

The real lesson is to run down your enemies as they retreat. America failed to do that with the south after the Civil War. America failed to do that with the Sov Union. Looks like the allies failed to do that with the Axis as well. Every evil entity will roll over and beg for mercy with crocodile tears. Leave the people, annihilate the state.

Either recruit people to your side or marginalize and destroy them completely. There's no in between.

It's more subtle. Technically they won, but while they were winning, Russia was buying the power in US. Weird situation now where the winner becomes a vassal state of the loser...

oh you see Russia is actually, and Im being 100% serious when Im saying this, a bastion of capitalism. its the end result of capitalism.

its just the crony capitalism where society has regressed into a class structure with peasants, nobles, and all of that.

Officially? Jan. 20, 2025

Republicans have always loved Russia and the Commies right?

Unfortunately, the EU still didn't even manage to block Twitter and even less to touch Starlink, or send promised money to Ukraine in less than months. I wouldn't hold my breath on anything further out of what they've planned at least 6months ago already, and sanctions against US oligarchs was definitely not on the list.

I think the EU should consider sanctions on select oligarchs from the US.

I can suggest one such oligarch, Elon Musk

**All** of the billionaires who were mugging for the camera at the inauguration.

…and inviting Russians into the oval to watch and report to president Putin as he bullies Zelenskyy. Good job, Murca, and good job, VP Krasnov. Vance did a good job too.

I think he could stab a child fuck the hole and his supporters would still blame the victim for being DEI.

There is no dirt that sticks to that greasy fuck.

VP Krasnov has been a Russian asset since about 1987. They have far worse than the recent pp tapes on him. They have the Epstein tapes.

I suspect they're the ones who bailed him out back in the 90's when he was almost completely bankrupt. They owned him ever since

We don't call Russia an ally just because they have nukes.

If USA lift sanctions on Russia, they are working against NATO interests, and against a world of law, and against democracy.

That cannot be an ally of Europe, and we shouldn't sugarcoat it.

They're still in the first stage of grief.

i believe it was called the Mueller special counsel investigation

In a few small outlets. I have not seen a big headline on the front page of a national paper, or an opener on the nayor TV networks news.

No puppet! No puppet! Yer the puppet!

—Puppet in Chief

Or "asset". He may do what Putin wants, but he's not out there decoding messages or leaving dead drops! Yeah, I watched The Americans on FX...

They don't seem to care about their oath about "enemies foreign and domestic" anymore.

Media? What about the fucking US military and intelligence services?

>And another piece of evidence that Trump is nothing but a Russian agent in the Oval Office.

Russian puppet, FTFY.

they did that a long time ago

Well it will help end the war, just in Russia's favor

Krasnov Trump scammed his investors, loans and bankrupted his casinos. He is doing the same to US to enrich himself.

It couldn't have been done without the groundwork he laid.

Yeah well, there were still 90 million who didn't give a shit and stayed on the couch. That would've easily turned everything around.

Vote suppression was rife. There were over two million mail-in ballots trashed. Black voters' ballots were nine times more likely to be trashed than white voters'.

A coup? This is what Americans voted for.

Possibility? .... this coup is more like watching moss grow over concrete ... it's taking time but it will soon cover everything and everyone is making it as hot and moist as possible to speed up the process

a lot of Americans acknowledge a coup happened about a month ago

The possibility of a US coup is becoming more real everyday with the Trump administration.

A US coup is becoming more real everyday with the Trump administration.

Thing is, saving that house now by forsaking the country could lead to that same door being kicked down by the feds in just a few months for that liberal Facebook post you made calling trans people human. Get in the Gitmo van.

The BLM protests were the largest in US history. The fact is that most Americans have been coddled by a stable democracy and don't care if they lose it, as long as someone puts a buck in their pocket. They think it won't affect them because Congress bad, both sides bad.

Of the ones who do care, they think protests dOn'T wOrK because BLM or the Palestine protests failed. Completely ignoring the fact that other civil resistance movements have succeeded and are historically more successful than armed revolts against the upper class.

This is kind of an underrated sentiment. I think a big reason there aren’t more protests and revolting is because we really can’t afford it. The financial impact on each individual can be significant. Employers don’t support time off for anything of a political nature, not even voting.

I don’t believe this situation isn’t intentional. It seems that countries who take two hour lunch breaks and don’t let their jobs dictate their entire lives are far more likely to protest en mass.

https://youtube.com/shorts/en_VpZtUFcE

Can it wait a few more months? I need a bit more PTO. Rent doesn't pay itself.

I'm approximately 2,700 miles from DC, so I'll need several days' notice for when the violent insurrection will be.

So let’s stop beating around the bush at what has to be done, violent revolution is the only path to freedom.

There is plenty of room for nuance, there's just no nuance to be had.

There's no more room for nuance. We (that is, our government) are the baddies. Straight up.

To help Putin, he is bankrupting USA just like how he bankrupted his casinos.

As an American? Surely you mean as a proud member of the new American Protectorate of the Russian Federation, comrade?

APRF, got a ring to it!

Anyway better start being proud or it's off to Gulaganamo Bay...

damn, seems like I definitely chose the right instance.

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You're an awesome admin <3

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I _sincerely_ hope that the military, even red state members, would recognize invading Canada or any of these countries as being a real fucked move and not what they signed up for.

FYI if everybody no longer pay their taxes and no longer work, its game over for the government in less than a year and in a peacefull way... (Excluding food, energy and health sector of course, and people will need to be able to rely on their communities exclusively, but lets be honest, in the US its already the case...)

Imagine a COVID but as a national and perpetual strike/protest. Even with a third of the population doing that, it would work.

It was the generation after the Nazis that did all the work to redeem Germany. The Nazis themselves never admitted that what they did was wrong, even when it destroyed their own country.

And of course they felt free. To the mediocre, the hateful, and the weak-minded, "freedom" means power over others, and the Nazis gave their supporters a tiny bit of that power.

[From interviews in 1953] The author determined that his interviewees had fond memories of the Nazi period and did not see Adolf Hitler as evil, and they perceived themselves as having a high degree of personal freedom during Nazi rule

I never considered some Germans still favored the Nazi regime after WW2, or at least not a significant number, especially not otherwise normal people. I've ordered a copy of the book

bUt wE hAvE oUr oWn PrObLeMs. tHiS dOeSn’T cOnCeRn Us.

Fucking shameful and depressing. Makes me realize that slogans like “never again” are not at all realistic because they’ll always be idiots who think shit doesn’t concern them, until it does.

I posted this on a Reddit thread, but we have become very dependent on certain technologies. The resistance is taking a while to get warmed up. One of the biggest issues is our communication channels used in the first administration have all been compromised. Twitter, Whatsapp, and Reddit are all being used against us. There may never be a hashtag protest again.

No one thinks this is normal or okay. But there is an air of fear that the secret police tech bros are listening.

I agree. As an American I didn't understand how this could happen. However, and this excuses nothing, but read the book "They Thought they were Free," by Milton Mayer. It explains how normal people were wrapped up in Germany. It was eye opening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Thought_They_Were_Free

I'm trying hard not to accuse America per se but recognise that this is Trump and his administration being driven by Kremlin interference and direct involvement.

I cannot see the American people putting up with this nightmare but I fear it's not hitting home as it should.

Ukraine is just a part of a bigger picture where Russia is actively interfering with Western politics, business, governments, elections and referendums with the aim of bringing down the West.

With the traditional USA out of the game Russia will move on to eastern Europe. In the meantime China makes it's move on Taiwan and others in the region; the Trump USA taking Canada, Greenland, Western Europe; the middle east being carved between Russia and Trump USA.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better whilst Trump is in power.

Even though the EU has been funding Russia with fossil fuel imports? Kinda feels like we're the only country that was willing to make a stand and did it alone while Russia's GDP rose last year.

Kind of proves there is no deep state right? Feels like they might have given the praetorian guard a nod.

Trump is such a master negotiator. Betray our allies, threaten to leave the UN, stop all cyber security operations against Russian, lift sanctions against Russia that are working, block Ukraine from joining the UN, and say that any chance of ending the war has to result in Ukraine ceding stolen territory.

All before negotiations even start. What a mastermind.

The US is NATO.

Ties that look a lot like puppet strings.

I've commissioned an art piece of Trump sucking Putins dick. Will share when it's done.

What's quite funny is that in Europe there was never really much hatred for communism. It wasn't what we did, but we weren't bothered by it. The red scare was an entirely American phenomenon.

However fast forward 40 years and suddenly it's the reverse. America like Russia and Europe is talking about the threat of invasion.

True

It hasn't stopped people from thinking that "communism" is a synonym for "bad".

Russia used to be godless commies, but now it's viewed as a white, Christian capitalist state with a strong leader. It's not, but that's the bullshit Fucker Carlson and other Russian sponsored propagandists have been spewing for the last decade or so.

Maybe that's cause Russia hasn't been communist in a long while.

I like godless commies more than what Russia is now.

Sad development

Its not that crazy. It was founded on the principle that a select few have lots of power.

From Europe it’s crazy seeing the USA getting so close to authoritarian regimes, and so far from democratic ones.

Trump is a foreign spy that managed to gain control of his enemies military.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

>In the Americas, United States, and Canada:

>

-Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".

pretty much, they switches thier strategy to using propaganda and bribing since the 80s;.

Exhibit A.

Exhibit B.

You're framing that as a difference in taste when in reality it was a difference in having shitty bigoted views or not. Haven't you fuckers muddied the water enough?

Oh look, another Trumper obsessed with culture war issues that no one else cares about.. I'm so surprised.

I understand what you're saying. I also dispute the 50% number.

I'm saying only 30% of the country voted for him, 30% against, and 40% voted with their asses, making the effective amount of "love" 70%, not 50%.

Approval rating of ~50% notwithstanding, he has a 70% mandate to fuck shit up when we have 40% ass-voters.

I was originally replying to the post above that said: "50% of the country loves their strongman president more than freedom or common sense." And I was specifically disputing the 50% figure in regards to "loving" Trump. So you're arguing something else entirely.

It's an important distinction because falsely claiming that half the country loves Trump legitimizes his authoritarian rule.

I'm saying they voted tacitly in agreement with everyone that voted for him. Whether they love the man doesn't matter. They supported him by voting with their asses.

So you're saying those who didn't vote love him? How does that make sense?

"In reality, there is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard's vote."

~ David Foster Wallace

70% of Murca voted for him.

Less than less than a third voted against him.

Less than a third of eligible voters voted for Trump.

And the other 50% thinks that the best avenue for social change is to attack people who don't like the latest Disney movie.

I meant Yanukovych ran away to hide in Russia at the first sign of trouble and Zelensky stayed in Ukraine even with bombs falling on Kyiv

Sounds like thats the Ukrainian SBU's business, and no one elses.

you're asking the location of a world leader who has had countless attempts on his life and is actively at war. Do you normally ask stupid rhetorical questions?

I mean, where is the guy hiding right now? Where is Zelensky?

kindly, Fuck off.

A couple of suspicious sounding phone calls intercepted from an embassy, when every embassy in the country was having their own discussions about their preferred outcome to the collapse of a government, do not influence millions of Ukrainians who know their own country and government, to take to the streets in a riot over being betrayed over something they voted for.

Shut the fuck up Ivan

Nothing. 50% of the country loves their strongman president more than freedom or common sense

A US backed coup is not "civil disobedience" lol

If china is about to kill you economy, who gives a damn about Russia?b

And u clearly have no historical knowledge of that conflict.

“I put at least some minimal effort into looking like I don’t just fantasize gargling their balls. Even though I do.”

I disagree with Trump on many things, just not Ukraine Russia

That's why they get along so swimmingly

That's certainly the trajectory Project 2025 wants to really drive home. That's not exactly a defense of Russia.

Isnt that what us is? Capitalist authoritarian hellscape?

Oh so being a KGB agent is being the president, got it. Who’s the idiot again?

You're an idiot then. He was literally a KGB agent. This isn't even hard to find information, if you Google him it's on Wikipedia you've done literally zero research.

He came into power almost a decade after the Cold War ended, so I don’t get what you mean

it keeps population dumb

You mean dumb like all those Trump Musk supporters ? Or dumb because educational programs have been defunded, and fed by social media and classic media controlled by the rich men having power ?

Well Russia was doing all this same stuff back the too so I'm not really wrong. They certainly aren't more peaceful these days.

This is a total lie.

there is no sense to keep funding stupid usaid propaganda - it keeps population dumb

The only thing that hasn't changed since then is Russia

Which has nothing to do with anything, but I bet it sounded cool in the goo in your numbskull.

Yeah, note instead of Russia being a communist authoritarian hellscape, it’s a capitalist authoritarian hellscape.

Very different

Commenting on every post licking trumps balls

Yes, but Russia (or at least Putin) hasn't.

Both Putin and Trump are 80s relics and so it matters little how much the wor[l]d has changed, the cold war facet applies to the blindly pro-russian stance of Trump.

Of all the stances to take, this one is insane. Almost every violent conflict has shades of gray, nuance rather than unambiguous good and bad. The Ukraine-Russia conflict is one of those supremely rare straightforward ones where Russia is just straight up the bad guys.

Trump is so l still a Russian asset. Doing russias bidding

Well yeah, it's part of o365 now.

Word has changed since cold war u know.

Yall, the USA just lost the fucking Cold War.

Fight Canada, help Russia. How in the hell are Republicans just watching this happen? Cowards and frauds, all of them.

Is he actually trying to crash the US economy on purpose? Or is he that detached from reality?

Sanctions (tariffs) Canada, Mexico, and China. Removes sanctions on Russia. What the fuck?

Trump got ties with russia...

Does this mean Russia won the cold war

Wow! It’s amazing how most of the voters who voted for him grew up hating “commies” but suddenly Russia is their ally. Astonishing.

This is so wrong. I hate what we've become. As an American, I've never been proud of what this country has done but I've never been THIS ashamed. I feel like a joke.

If the US does lift sanctions on select oligarchs from Russia, I think the EU should consider sanctions on select oligarchs from the US.

I can suggest one such oligarch, Elon Musk - he's associated with wielding illegitimate power, manipulating social media and interfering in elections (both national and primary) using wealth.

How about freezing his assets? I don't think he has taken the prudent step of collecting all his money and stowing it under Donald's presidential seat.

Does anyone else remember the 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton where she accused Trump of being a puppet for Putin, and he interrupted "No puppet, no puppet! You're the puppet!"

Or when Alnur Mussayev, the Russian officer who served in the KGB's 6th Directorate in Moscow, said that Trump was recruited as a Russian agent in 1987, under the codename "Krasnov", when he went to Russia for a "real estate project".

I have nothing against americans, but this is Hitler level bullshit and if americans dont wake up after this (like revolt level wake up), they are no better than today russians orks or past german nazis sympathizer.

Until they get their shit together by getting rid of this orange shit pile, americans can just go fuck themselves...

When Ukraine's president surprisingly shifted towards Russia, the people engaged in civil disobedience until there was a new president.

What will the US do?

And another piece of evidence that Trump is nothing but a Russian agent in the Oval Office. When will the US media finally start to ask about this?

4D chess right here, put economic stress on our allies, but try to help out our enemies.

If we dont know what we are doing, the enemy certainly cant anticipate our future actions!

I'm surprised it took this long. He's already selling U.S. citizenship to Russian mobsters, so why not let them run wild and finish what you started - destroying America.

though it’s unclear what the U.S. would receive in return

Unclear to who? It seems to me that Trump wants to gain the favor of Putin. Why is this unclear? Is the Guardian too afraid to make this accusation? For someone like Trump that is always looking out for himself, it's unlikely he's doing this out of the kindness of his heart.

You know what would help end the war in Ukraine? Letting Russia keep all their money and having no repercussions for their actions. That should do the trick.

Is this being reported in the US in the mainstream media?

The possibility of a US coup is becoming more real everyday with the Trump administration.

Thank you, comrade krasnov. Go to hell, asshole.

Kick the US out of Nato and any special status in the UN. Sanction the everliving fuck out of everything US. This will destroy the retirement I was at least partially expecting to get, but fuck it.

String up the traitors

Reward your friends, punish your enemies. Trump showing that he views Russia as an ally, and Canada as a threat.

If this is about ending the war, where's Ukraine's voice in these discussions?

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>The White House has directed the State and Treasury Departments to draft a proposal for lifting some U.S. sanctions on Russia as part of Trump’s effort to restore ties and end the Ukraine war.

Yeah that's definitely the reason they're doing it.

Get ready for weapon sales for Russia!

Yeah I figured this would happen. And when the cost of gas goes up because of his Tarrifs we'll be buying oil from Russia again..

This feels suspiciously like traitorous activity.

Is it because of the way it is?

Under Orange Krasnov, Lada, Kamaz, GAZ, etc...will replace the Big Three. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

And red voters will still find ways to deny that he's Putin's little *removed* boy

something something treason

Congrats to Putin, he really knows how to play stupid people.

Codename Krasnov sure giving a lot away to Russia for nothing in exchange. Is this the Art of the Deal?

somebody tell me when did America and Russia become allies? i think i missed that part of history class

Man, what kind of blackmail do they have on trump?

In Europe many leaders still claim USA is our most important ally. I wonder if they say it.hoping it will make it true, or if they really still believe it?

Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave.