u/echodot — Echo Dot

Yeah they sent me an email to basically say no. The randomised list has apparently put me too far down so now I'm not going to get one.

No time frame or anything just no.

It wouldn't help. The CEOs are just the idiot figureheads who make dumb decisions, don't be replaced within a day.

I suspect that part of the problem is that they seem to have the steam machine bundled with the controller, or at least that seems to be an option. Presumably they're keeping some controllers back so they can fulfil those orders.

My gaming headphones still use USB A so I guess that's why that's there. But yeah, I don't need 4.

Extinction Rebellion primarily used WhatsApp as their communication method. I always knew those guys were a bit of a joke but their opsec is utterly useless.

Did they not limit pre-orders to people with existing steam accounts and one controller per account because that would have been an excellent idea and I assumed that they would have thought of that.

Anyway I have zero interest in the controller until the VR headset comes out.

I was hoping they would do a transparent version, since it does kind of look like a mad cat's controller that you give to your kid brother while you have the proper controller, really lean into it.

Although no doubt dbrand will have a skin for it.

I always thought the old one looked like a Sega genesis controller, but with a modern button scheme.

I was going to say the US dollar has seriously slipped if £58 is equivalent to $99. Though I could see it happening.

Underpowered compared to what. Apparently it's more powerful than 50% of all computers recorded in the steam hardware survey. Not everyone has a $3,000 gaming PC

I grew up playing RuneScape at 15 frames per second on the crappy school computers, so I'm used to it.

Probably Pavlov it's basically just CoD multiplayer, plus a less janky Gary's Mod, in VR. I've just check my stats and I have months worth of play time. It's also a hell of a workout.

The trailers on the steam page don't really do it justice. It's mostly about the community.

If you're into racing there's also Gran Turismo, I'm pretty sure Euro truck / American truck simulator also supports VR, as of course does Elite Dangerous and if you're prepared to buy into it Star Citizen.

There's also loads and loads of indie games but I don't really know about those because my VR experience has been exclusively PlayStation limited, where those titles are not available. But I do know that ultra wings is extremely good because I've played it on a friend's headset.

I normally wouldn't say I was particularly interested in the VR chat style community playroom thing either but I had a lot of fun with Rec Room which is essentially the same thing but is available on PlayStation. The problem with those games is they tend to have a lot of kids in them who shouldn't really be in there since most of those games are 18 plus. But I take the view that if they're in there, then they're fair play, and you can just shoot them if they're being annoying.

Oh and there's a dungeons and dragons simulator which is very good. If you're into dungeons and dragons. Oh and loads of poker games.

Sorry this is a bit rambly, I just keep thinking of titles I've played over the years.

The thing about VR games is they don't tend to get huge advertising budgets because it's still quite a niche market so it looks like there isn't really a lot of options. But if you actually have a look on the VR page there's loads. There's even quite a good VR MMO who's name I can't quite remember, but that's quite good, if kind of dated looking.

Really he's been pretty critical of Microsoft lately. I don't really have a problem with him personally, he definitely doesn't live in the real world though.

Well one would get a VR headset to play VR games. If you're not going to play VR games on the VR headset then it really isn't worth you getting one.

Blame LTT for that. They're the ones that put out the initial idea that corporations might buy them thus valve cannot sell them at a loss.

When I first heard them say that I initially thought "yeah that makes sense". But after a while of thinking about it, no it doesn't make any sense at all, I have no idea why he said that.

Most corporations just buy laptops and then the world's cheapest docking stations. So would have to be cheaper than a mid-tier laptop and I can't see that being likely.

It's hard to benchmark because it's running on a weird system architecture that no one's ever really seen before.

On paper it should be at least as good as the quest, possibly a little bit more powerful. But there's an awful lot of optimisation opportunities possible on ARM, but we don't know if they will be initially realised. Of course you can also run it in display mode in which case it's as powerful as the PC it's paired with. At which point only really care about is the screen, comparable to the quest, the lenses which aren't good as the quests, and the tracking which is probably quite a lot better than the quest. Also when it is paired to a computer it's done so via 6G wireless rather than a cable, so that's quite a lot more convenient.

The steam frame also has an expansion port, which is a new concept for VR headsets so we'll see what ends up happening with that.

They do. But a lot of displays don't support DP so HDMI is there for them. If you have a capable TV, then there is no issue.

I suspect that if anything is going to become big enough to warrant its own community it would probably be steamOS rather than any of the hardware, after all in a few months the hardware will be out and there won't be as much to talk about.

But the OS is going to be getting updates I would assume, so there's always going to be new topics

I mean, I've been running Linux off it on a Pi for years without issue.