Chinese state newspaper claims the US is a 'failed state' ruled by a 'racist president' as it rips into Donald Trump — Article from 2020
c/worldnews · u/Sagittarii@lemm.ee · 216 points
c/worldnews · u/Sagittarii@lemm.ee · 216 points
u/yogthos@lemmy.ml · 10 points
Thank you for taking your valuable time away from sniffing glue to write this insightful comment.
u/wurzelgummidge@lemmy.ml · 2 points
When the audience/readership has no effective way of fact-checking what is said then they can (and do) just make it up to suit their narrative. Anything that contradicts the narrative is an "unreliable source."
https://swprs.org/the-propaganda-multiplier/
u/Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 17 points
Very frequently propaganda relies on a single kernal of truth, and then changing the quantity, quality, or both of said truth. All it needs is *some* level of justification, then it can be molded like clay into whatever you need it to say.
u/bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 points
Fair enough. Gotta think about this a little more I guess.
u/Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 28 points
That's actually not true, with respect to altering the truth. Usually the quantity or quality of a single truth is heavily distorted, or outright fabricated. See Iraq's WMD that never matetialized.
u/maniel@sopuli.xyz · -5 points
Yeah, and?
u/Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 15 points
Equal condemnation for unequal things just ends up being support for the status quo, though.
u/BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 8 points
Whataboutism
u/maniel@sopuli.xyz · -6 points
Of course, "one without sin among you should be the first to throw a stone", I'm not a fan of US but also not a fan of PRC
u/maniel@sopuli.xyz · -1 points
Yeah not literally, I didn't mean to praise the US in any way, I'm just recalling a historical example of one not-so-ideal country criticizing another not-so-ideal country
Also
Not that I'm suggesting they're wrong
Part might be key to understand what I meant
u/glimse@lemmy.world · 8 points
That's not what you wrote, though?
u/maniel@sopuli.xyz · -7 points
That's what I wrote, but I forgot it's lemmy.ml
u/BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 14 points
Ok, I wouldn't expect you to be honest about it anyway.
u/maniel@sopuli.xyz · -8 points
I didn't even remotely suggested anything like this
u/ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 20 points
Would be more fallacious if they weren't actually lynching black people tbh
u/BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 18 points
I like that liberals have decided that criticizing the USA is inherently fallacious.
u/B0rax@feddit.org · 14 points
u/glimse@lemmy.world · 5 points
Two things can be true.
u/Viri4thus@feddit.org · 13 points
Pots and kettles eh 🤣
u/HorreC@lemmy.world · 1 points
I am with you on this, but that was all a presidential action, and while no one was trying to stop it (maybe a small group under bernie) it was all signed off by him (and now the other him). I could be wrong I knew there was many votes on the house floor for Ukraine funding but I dont recall the same for isreal (not that they dont get a HUGE cut of the american budget as it is).
u/timewarp@lemmy.world · 3 points
Yeah, it is right here under this rubble in Gaza.
u/HorreC@lemmy.world · 3 points
can you show me where the Democrats touched you.
u/gnutrino@programming.dev · 24 points
Are the Democrats in the room with us right now?
u/Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 20 points
Do you think Democrats and Leftists are the same group of people? Where are the Democrats here?
u/Shiggles@sh.itjust.works · 13 points
China states that eating food reduces symptoms of starvation
WELL I GUESS AS A DEMOCRAT I MUST ABSTAIN FROM ALL FOOD TO PROVE THEM WRONG
u/ripcord@lemmy.world · 10 points
Careful that this giant strawman of yours doesn't catch on fire.
u/leftytighty@slrpnk.net · 6 points
THE DEMOCRATS, THEY WERE UPVOTING
u/Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world · 5 points
Too stupid to understand the difference between criticism and hate. You're one of those idiots that thinks any criticism of America is hate instead of the desire for a more perfect union.
u/umbrella@lemmy.ml · 4 points
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u/wurzelgummidge@lemmy.ml · 79 points
>Global Times, a major Chinese propaganda tabloid,
The Daily Mail, 🤣
u/radon12445@lemm.ee · 44 points
Why use the word "claim" for something that's painfully and obviously true? 🤔
u/sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net · 17 points
water is wet
u/coolusername@lemmy.ml · 13 points
Context: global times is not a "newspaper". It's Chinese nationalist English media. Their proper state run media is much more formal and reserved. For example look at Xinhua.
u/yogthos@lemmy.ml · 11 points
where's the lie
u/ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net · 9 points
u/cavemeat@beehaw.org · 9 points
NGL, I had already learned of collapse and how cooked we were back then, but I thought it was exaggerated and that we had some time to go before things really started to pick up....
u/Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml · 5 points
Global Times is not China. It’s one news source so statements made by Global Times, especially in the editorials aren’t inherently statements made my China. They are run by individuals who sent the articles in. To claim that China made this statement is ridiculous and would be akin to saying that the US made a statement on something because of a single article NPR ran or that the UK made a statement because of a single article run by the BBC.
u/bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 points
Propaganda about the enemy usually doesn’t require altering the truth much. Propaganda about the own state of affairs is a completely different story.
u/Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · -11 points
The fucked up CCP fails to remember when Putin's Sock Puppet said, "Xi is great and we love each other."
u/timewarp@lemmy.world · -18 points
So Democrats hate on China, but also rely on them why it suites their messaging? Earlier today Democrats were just upvoting something saying that Elon Musk has close ties with China which is an authoritarian dictatorship. If Democrats were consistent, wouldn't this mean that authoritarians don't like Donald Trump?
u/maniel@sopuli.xyz · -19 points
Not that I'm suggesting they're wrong or I'm defending Trump