Trump To Tariff Chips Made In Taiwan, Targeting TSMC

Ohh. Hmm. It's far-fetched but I suppose it's plausible.

It's removing "gaining control of TSMC" from the lists of reasons for China to invade, making the whole operation less attractive. Though the more the US tries to deny China access to advanced chips, the less that disincentive matters.

I have heard they are rigged with explosives, but that could just be hearsay. I wouldn't work in a building rigged with explosives. I also don't understand why TSMC would voluntarily self-destruct in such a situation. I don't get the incentive.

As I understand it, TSMC and Taiwan themselves have a plan to blow up the foundries should a China invasion look like it's going to succeed. They are already rigged with the explosives from what I understand.

Yellow Perilism isn't just about PRC. Japan suffered from it first hand in the 1980s and 1990s. Anti-Asian racism runs deep in the US and the West.

Wait I somehow never thought about this, does the one china policy really dictates that they have to apply tariffs across the strait? I assume it's in jest since I'm pretty sure they regular import/export on a smaller scale yet (like ban on Xinjiang imports), but I'm curious

The biggest issue being that despite having operational fabs here, TSMC still needs to ship their wafers to Taiwan in order to process them into chips.

Yes, we all know Trump wants to make education free lmao

could be, if he also made education free. since he is currently reversing the global brain drain by deporting immigrants. i don't see what other next step he could possibly commit to unless he expects re-industrialization to just magically appear out of thin air.

Yeah that's his thought process. The US isn't 19th century Japan though.

Yeah, seems to be the carrot and stick approach. Biden provided the carrot a few years ago (subsidies for new US plants) and Trump is providing the stick (tariffs for offshore imports).

Lol the chips Intel and TSMC make in the US are three generations old and no where near producing the amount needed to even cover the USs needs.

Intel is currently floundering unable to make a good (reliable) node. TSMC can make the chip, but the very important step of packaging needs to be done in Taiwan still.

Ahhhhh, so he's trying to reinvigorate domestic industry.

The US makes chips. Notably Intel and TSMC have US fabs.

Not true. A nation doesn't need tariffs to help with preparations unless they're also trying to maintain the dominance of their ruling classes.

Tariffs mean *we* have to pay for it instead of *them.* They can afford it, but they won't foot the bill unless they are *forced to.*

There it is. ML user is a single issue voter, *if* they're even American to begin with .

You can't even distinguish between a century wide gap in economics and today.

Has everything to do with the current situation.

"usa bad"

what else would you call enabling a genocide?

Has nothing to do with the current situation.

But "america bad" so you do you.

You clearly know nothing

The United States pursued a protectionist policy from the beginning of the 19th century until the middle of the 20th century. Between 1861 and 1933, they had one of the highest average tariff rates on manufactured imports in the world. After 1942, the U.S. began to promote worldwide free trade. After the 2016 presidential election, the US increased trade protectionism.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_tariffs_in_the_United_States

You know it wasn't the same. And if you don't know that then you shouldn't even respond like that.

The US also used protectionism in the 19th and 20th centuries

Japan used tariffs to increase domestic industries and leap frog into the 20th century. It enabled them to take part in WW II and beyond. That's why you'll see giant corporations that control multiple different industries.

It did work for Japan. The US is in a completely different situation though, and it'll only hurt.

Tariffs can help with preparation, and they are a tool like many other policies. These ones, though, are not thoughtfully planned out. These protect no one, not even the mega-corps who need to figure out how to make everything domestically or price themselves out of the market.

I've found it soul crushing that anyone believed tariffs would help.

This will surely sort out the egg price

I don't know about God, but I do agree with the outcome.

There are, if memory serves, quite a few examples of God punishing his chosen people and redistributing their wealth. But then you've got that whole new testament thing which really pushes the idea that everyone is the chosen people now.

It seems to me that the only one trying to destroy the United States is the United States.

"trump was godsent, but not for the reasons you believe. think more of an exodus' plague"

ACCELERATIONIST TRUMP

ACCELERATIONIST TRUMP

Crying and banging my head on the floor because accelerationists might be right

He might be right.



Ah yes put tariffs on the goods that our allies make, a tried and true solution to the problem of groceries

Long term, more high tech manufacturing will be the result of more technology availability for cheaper, not higher cost chips from overseas

It's my understanding that Taiwan doesn't manufacture the chip producing machines anyways, those come from ASML

He said he was gonna apply tarrifs to China. This is consistent with the One China policy.

The world's largest semiconductor foundry, and one of the primary reasons the U.S. maintains a hold on Taiwan. There are rumours that the US has a plan to blow it up in case of Chinese invasion, that's how valuable it is. So this quite a reversal of strategy.

Tariffs only exist to protect the profits of the ruling class.

Do not be fooled. Tariffs are not good for us.

It Hurt Itself in Its Confusion!

Does he plan to start making chips??? Genuinely why would he do this.

And people said nothing good will come out of Trump :D Weakening the US' position internationally and its allies is a good thing in my opinon.

I see he adopted "death to America"

Is he intentionally trying to sink us? If so, I guess I don't hate him as much as I thought?

Neo Hitler is getting strike 1 out of 3 out of the way