u/tocopherol

And anyway, that is just a weird way to analyze a theoretical system. If something hasn't been put in place fully how would we have examples? The cavemen didn't have a lot of examples of farms and factories.

There are numerous examples of egalitarian or socialist communities throughout history, I'm not a professor, I'm not going to lecture you on every single point there is, unless I knew you were actually asking in good faith. You are obviously just trying to find any meaningless symantic hole possible. Maybe it would surprise you that a lot of us are just trying to make the world at least somewhat better! No system will solve every single issue humanity has right away.

Yeah because that is the endstate of socialism. That is what the path of communism aims to lead to. It's not the starting point, it's after a transition past the capitalist mode of production into a new economic paradigm. It is after the wealthy elite are overthrown in what would likely be a war between the global proletariat and the rich. History of society is a progressive journey between different economic systems. We used to be hunter-gatherers, then developed agriculture, consolidated factories, and now we can move to a new step.

Any of them, If there is a classless society where everyone's basic needs are met, a person growing their own lemons or acquiring them and giving lemonade to people in exchange for currency can still be communism and wouldn't be a problem. They aren't exploiting laborers by hoarding wealth derived from wage labor. Socialist systems can have markets, and small business enterprises.

Well he was a key theoritician of communism, so partly, but also Engles, Lenin, Che, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, Fanon, Huey Newton, Bobby Seale, many others. It'd be a shame if I only ever read one author when communism has been developed by multitudes of scientists, teachers and other thinkers over the last 150 years.

Alright buddy, whatever you say.

You're confusing personal property with essential infrastructure. You can have and sell all those things even under communism.

The American people are some of the most propagandised on Earth. Our education has been eroded over decades and we are steeped in a media sphere almost entirely owned by the wealthy which constantly discredits anything remotely socialist and tells almost nothing but lies about the outside world. People can't even usually protest in a serious way without losing their jobs, and therefore their healthcare and housing. When protesters burned down the police station in Minneapolis in 2020, that was ranked with a higher approval rating than nearly any politician elected at the time.

Even if a good candidate is elected, the power comes from the wealthy, they will subvert any thing progressive using their trillions of dollars and surveillance panopticon.

So a lot of Americans did vote for this horrific administration, but most people don't even know what they are voting for, and voter turnout is egregiously bad because most people don't feel they can even trust what they are told about politics.

Reorganize our economic system into one in which the means of production, ie factories, farms, utilities etc, are collectively owned by the people instead of being owned by the rich elite who take all profit for themselves.

In 1944 would it be controversial for someone to chant "Death, death to the SS!"? If people can't see the genocide and see that military force against the genociding organization is necessary to stop it by now then they won't be 'brought to our side' by using a kinder chant. It's a type of civil disobedience, it brings more attention to the BBC and UK's complicity in the genocide.

Who removed this? Death to the IDF is a call for defense, not a call for violence. Death to the IDF. The IDF is an organization. Death to that doesn't have to mean violence. If the Israeli government would disband the IDF that would be a death of the IDF.

But let me be clear, soldiers committing genocide should be stopped by all means possible. Death to the IDF and the soldiers enacting genocide.

Do you have the same concern for the thousands of children being held indefinitely in prisons by Israel? Why don't those hostages deserve release?

Fuck off Nazi, anyone with sense knows the difference between Zionism and Jews.

Abbas is not necessarily the best source to quote, that quote in particular was something like 30 years ago and he had clarified his stance later emphasizing the horrific crime against humanity that the holocaust was, but he sucks anyway and has very low approval in Palestine, with a reported 90% of Palestinians wanting him to resign. But it is unfortunate that antisemitism like you describe is very common in the Arab world.

This is pure conjecture but it could be possible Palestinians would have a more accurate view of the situation because of their proxmity and history and therefore have less explicit antisemitism versus anti-Zionism, recognizing the distinction.

They don't see 'jews' attacking them and hate jews, they know what the IDF and the US is, of course there are likely antisemitic people there as there may be anywhere, but most people know the difference between Jews as a group and the people they see shooting and bombing them wearing the flag of Israel or the US.

Why do you think they wouldn't make a distinction? Islamic texts reference Jewish and Christian prophets, they don't just naturally automatically hate each other.

They lived together fine for many years. People are concerned about Palestinians because there is accepted scholarly consensus that they are being killed en masse in a genocide waged by Israel and supported materially by the US and it's allies. Likely at least 100,000 Palestinian people have been killed since October 2023.This isn't a competition for who is the most worthy victim historically between Muslims and Jews, innocent families, entire neighborhoods are being obliterated by Israel right now. Thousands of children are at risk of starving because of the total blockade by Israel. Many Jewish people disagree with what is happening and would prefer to share the space in peace.

Supporting Palestine and recognizing this as genocide has nothing to do with recognizing the horrors of the holocaust and feeling sympathy for the Jewish victims of antisemitism, they are not contradictory positions.

'Pro-Israel figures' as the headline says are the terrorists they are probably referring to, the ones threatening to kill people on a humanitarian aid mission.

Every election in my life has been 'the most important in history ' or whatever. As a brown person you should have more awareness that no vote, no established politician will save us from the right, that Democrats are hardly even opposition anymore and are simply a donation gathering organization putting on the airs of a relevent party.

There is no political motivation for anyone in power to slow the rise of fascism, or to stop a genocide going on in Palestine or one being prepared in the US. There is no point in acting like Kamala or anyone in the US political class has any chance of preventing the numerous crises building, or even a desire to. The sooner more on the left can recognize this, the sooner we can start working on actual solutions.

Which are you referring to? There are still thousands of Palestinian people in Israeli detention, many indefinitely with no charges, including hundreds of children.

Sbarro was founded by two Italian immigrants in Brooklyn, they were probably real NYC pizza at one point