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I don't know if they said it, but if so, I can imagine they had some trouble with the publisher. And now the original developers maybe recommend not to purchase it. Just my guess if it is true.

I would have suggested too, but it requires Origin client and it must run in the background while playing. And requires an EA account on top of it. The game is rated Steam Deck Playable, so not really the best experience on the Deck.

Which is a shame, because the single player campaign is so nice. I don't know if the online component still works.

The Winter Sale goes 8 days still, so you have plenty of time. Some games in example from EA and Ubisoft require additional launcher or an account to play them. I usually avoid them.

Steam Deck Verified: 5 games including Cyberpunk for total $47,8

• Cyberpunk: $ 21

• Ace Combat 7: $4.80

• Resident Evil 2: $10

• Subnautica: $8

• Disco Elysium - The Final Cut: $4

More interesting Steam Deck Verified games

• Hollow Knight: $7.50

• Stardew Valley: $9

• Maneater: $4

• Divinity Original Sin Enhanced Edition: $4

Also have a look at games that require additional account or launcher:

• Red Dead Redemption 2: $ 15 (Steam Deck Playable, Requires 3rd-Party Account: Rockstar Games)

• Halo Master Chief Collection: $10 (Steam Deck Verified, Requires 3rd-Party Account: Xbox Live)

I understand the issue here. I just wanted make my intentions crystal clear, as you was not entirely sure. Although, I do not entirely agree. Why? Because it is in the right of not caring other what affects you. Unless someone goes out of the way trying to stop the "optimization" for low end hardware, its totally fine if someone says "I don't care, it doesn't affect me".

I am against elitism too. In example on a different subject, but similar reasoning is emulation vs real hardware enthusiasts. Those people don't like how easy we have access to expensive games and hardware (for free) and therefore they are against it. This is the definition of elitism. And this is a different issue than people with high end hardware not caring about low end hardware, because it does not affect them. Not caring is okay to me.

I don't know how you can even get to this conclusion from what I said.

It depends on the optimization for low-end systems that is being done, if it will have an effect to high-end systems. All I say is, that optimizing a game for Steam Deck does not mean it will have an effect to high end machines (btw my system isn't even high end..., I'm not an elitist). In other replies I tried to give a few examples of what I mean.

A very simple example would be having low quality textures added to a game, to make it run with the constraints of the Steam Deck (or other low end machines). If the game was already running well at 60 fps with high quality textures, then it will not benefit from option to set low quality textures. And just to make it clear: I am not against optimizations for low end hardware. In fact I own a Steam Deck and love it and my PC is not even high end, some may even say low... (at least the GPU).

Doesn’t seem like a controller friendly game at first glance, but it’s so well optimized that I cannot go back to PC with it.

Why don't you use a controller on PC?

I might cheat a bit here, but for me its emulation with RetroArch since launch! I love the additional trackpads that give me features not possible on a regular gamepad. I setup my own menus and functionality. Can't wait for the official Steam Controller (2) to launch, so I can use this on my PC too.

I wouldn't even blame Lenovo for not passing over the savings of Linux. Because that means, they have a huge reason to sell Linux based systems, as they make more money from each unit this way.

This is the way.

The only part I want to share is this:


But its not true in all cases. Let's say a game is vastly optimized to run on high end hardware. There is not much to do, but they can optimize to run it on low end hardware with low resolution textures and other settings to make the game run on handheld. This would be optimized for handheld. And it won't change how good the game run on high end already.

You count specific optimization strategies that affect everyone. But not all optmizations or in the case of our discussion, making the game run on Steam Deck, won't affect everyone.

Neutral does not mean its a benefit. And not losing something was not the point of discussion or what i was talking about.

Low tier optimization does not mean its running cooloer on higher tier systems. In example if a game requires 16gb of VRAM for high tier setup, then developers optimizing the game alongside for low tier handhelds that have less VRAM will not change the fact for high tier. Therefore not everyone benefits from it. Similar to RayTracing or other features.

Not everyone benefits from games making run on Steam Deck.

You make some assumptions about who will benefit. And those are not "everyone".

But optimizing for low hardware does not mean its a win for everyone. For lot of people who have strong enough configuration does not care the performance at the portable level. There is no real benefit for them.

I don't think it makes it better for everybody, but I agree every developer should support the Steam Deck.

You have a point. I also fell sometimes for jokes, because I think they were meant seriously. BTelling people its a joke is kind of not funny. But I get your point and will try to make sure its clear next time.

I'm well aware. My reply was meant to be a joke, because VR is displayed on flat displays (ok maybe curved a bit).

VR is also flat...