u/Vinny_93

Well... We've had this system for some time now and we can't really say our government is super stable lately. In fact, the splintering pretty much makes it impossible to set a clear course. Plus, most parties make hot button issues their hill to die on so they'll just pull ultimatums all the time and threaten to blow up the government if they don't get what they want. Even if the Algemene Rekenkamer tells everyone that their plans are inexecutable.

I figured at least a couple of the PVV voters are so disillusioned they'll just not vote this time.

NSC had a guy who was tired of lobbying, tired of opacity of government and tired of political games. He is a dude who always had thorough knowledge of dossiers, who went the smart route.

But the PVV are populist blowhards who rely on bashing refugees (not immigrants, the Netherlands relies on immigrants too much) and their skewed statements about the economical costs resonated with voters who give up reading any document after a word with more than two syllables.

So the NSC had to basically water down everything the PVV wanted to do and had no time for any of their own points. Plus you had the VVD and the BBB in there, who are respectively for rich folks and farmers.

This cabinet was always doomed to fail and if the Dutch can't meet somewhere in the middle and keep splitting the vote between far right and far left, this will keep happening until America invades and we become an overseas colony.

A Trump was elected here but he fucked it all up within a year without even having managed to improve or ruin anything.

We have good hopes the next government is gonna get it right.

It was mentioned on Lubach, I couldn't really remember the specifics so I figured it was probably Amsterdam but I can't really spot it on first sight. I don't believe it's Rotterdam, the tram doesn't even look like the ones in Amsterdam

Thanks, that's the one I meant

The Confederate Flag thing is just laughable. I will never understand why some Europeans are so hung up on American politics.

In Amsterdam there was one of those pickups parked partly on tram rails. Imagine being that much of a prick.

When I see the rising popularity of those Ram or F150 monstrosities in small (sub) urban areas it makes me cry for humanity a bit

It should be good fun if proper parties all start doing populist stuff to win votes and once they form a cabinet by majority just knock every issue out of the park in the first year

I've been having a discussion about asylum with a friend all day. The thing is that we can see a lot about the actual figures and the amount of verblijfsvergunningen actually granted, but there is no way of telling how many of those requests are fulfilled due to migrant coaches who tell migrants just what to say in order to get asylum, or how many edge cases fall the right way because the employees at the asylum centers don't have the time or resources to properly look into certain situations.

I think if we apply this nuance to the actual debate, rather than calling it a 'too much' issue, it becomes a very difficult topic that doesn't really have a clear solution or answer.

The question then remains: if populists aren't set on solving a crisis that may or may not exist, are we voting ourselves into a totalitarian regime? I shudder to think so.

As was stated by another commenter, the VVD already wasn't willing to work with the PVV but Yeșilgöz threw that overboard because they lost so badly in the polls she was looking for a last resort to at least get a seat at the table.

It's not unlike what the PvdA and D66 have done ever since Rutte-I. It's actually kind of interesting that CDA has never said anything like this. At least not in a memorable way.

I think that's a nice and concise way to put it. I agree that the VVD kind of brought this on themselves but that's also due to them being the largest party for a lot of years in a row and there was a certain group of people who felt they couldn't rely on the VVD any longer.

I think Covid might've had something to do with that, it sort of fueled a polarisation on vaccines and government handling of individual freedom.

If somehow asylum/migration does get fixed or improved somehow, the 'out-group' will just find something new to polarise over. We've still got climate change, housing, nitrogen, power net congestion...

It's not a popular opinion in the Netherlands but I would like Volt to be bigger. If I read about their perfect Netherlands, I really can get behind that. The thing is that they do describe a utopia with a lot of impossible things that are going to cost a lot of money. But hey, we gotta start somewhere, right?

Wilders has been threatening to blow it up since day one. This coalition has been an uphill struggle from the get-go and none of the voters are in any way helped with the flailing policies and continuous notes that their official documents are lacking any semblance of professionalism and critical thought.

The sad thing is that we are a country divided on basically one issue. Migration. This is why populist parties can just ask simple questions like 'can we even trust our government?', 'are the government people even working?' or 'are the media still trustworthy?' and everyone is like 'yeah we need this guy in charge'. So voters do exactly 5 minutes of 'research' and then vote for the most incompetent guy who yells the loudest.

So we will go vote again. And we will most likely end up in a similar situation. And that, too, will fail.

Move to smaller houses, so that the larger houses become available for younger folks with families, so that they can leave the smaller houses, they become more available and become cheaper.

But as the other commenter says, this is really not the issue because the only thing this solves is folks raising families in small houses.

Hmm you are from Aussie Zone and are going through quite a bit of trouble to discredit this. This must mean it originated in Australia.

/s

It's pretty messed up that these days regular headlines read like The Onion headlines

This whole thing reads as though the writer feels Le Pen didn't really do anything wrong, but is being made an example of for having a different opinion.

I feel like we read a lot of things about far right populists claiming they are being actively prevented from practicing politics due to things they say, but then something comes out about what scumbags they really are.

Pretty much the only thing these populists have to defend themselves is whataboutism. I figured the trias politica would always make sure independent forces could keep these kinds of folks in check. This means

The law should ***always*** be applied.

Which begs the question: what happens when these guys do get to power, change the laws to their own liking, somehow get it pushed through...

Copenhagen? When I was there I just got the sense that everyone was in a hurry all the time

I feel like he doesn't really understand most of what is happening but he just says the first thing that comes to mind when he hears stuff.

This is something happening in Europe as well though, you've probably noticed it if you follow Dutch politics. There are these people who just yell out stuff that sounds pretty good but once action has to be taken, they find out it's never as simple as they'd imagined it to be. The end result is they get nothing done and their disillusioned voters are too stubborn to admit that they were susceptible to populism.