u/Nindelofocho

Would love a transparent case

As I am understanding it right now it doesn’t work that way though. Its just a plastic brick until Steam is launched. If it DID work that way that would be sick and I really hope I am wrong.

If it works as a mouse and keyboard without Steam open then that would be fine but from what im reading so far it doesn’t do anything until steam is launched

Doesn’t it default to Xinput? Ill admit im less familiar with the PlayStation controllers but I know my roommate has a few of the newer ones and just pops those into whatever system he was using pretty seamlessly (Win 10, and Mint IIRC)

Yea Nintendo for me is really on my shitlist for how they’ve treated their players and their policies but they certainly make a good product and people are going to take that into consideration too.

I also agree, people should definitely know what they are buying and I think Valve has done their due diligence on providing that information. However, I think Valve making a peripheral that only works when logged into Steam and nowhere else is not a good thing and should be looked at critically. Other mainstream peripherals are much more plug and play to PC outside of their own ecosystem (Xbox, PlayStation) for a lower price. I do not see why the controller doesent support xinput or whatnot or at least why the driver cannot be a separate download and entity from Steam. It wouldn’t even be remotely controversial (Heh) that this is a device that could go the route of something like the Spotify Car Thing.

I hope you find some peace today. Im really sorry if my comments inflammed your frustration at all.

Really well written out response, thank you! I havent streamed games from my PC in awhile but IIRC you connect the controller to your phone and it passes the inputs through to your PC as if the phone in the controller. I could be completely wrong on that but if true then Id think it would be quite problematic to get it to work if it required something proprietary, no?

Also for the project thing I was meaning less software and more electronics/robotics. Vavle didnt intend for the steamdeck to be used as a robotics controller but because of the nature/spirit of the Steamdeck people often use them as controllers. I think even Disney uses them to control some of the robots that move around their parks.

The full point is a peripheral you own shouldnt be tied to an account to work and a peripheral that does not provide the same functionality as other peripherals at or below its level should be criticized. Theres no reason for the drivers to not be a standalone download or at least for the basic functionality to work like any other xinput controller. I really like Valve but I think this move is still pretty stupid and ultimately harmful to the consumer. It steps away from the sorta open, not-supported-but-will-not-hinder-creativity theme theyve been doing with their recent hardware.

Remember the Spotify car thing?

I definitely believe theres some bias and rose tinted glasses going on here. I love Valve currently but people shouldn’t reward bad/sketchy behavior regardless of who it is.

I would really like to see Valve release some basic open standalone drivers to keep in the spirit of their other recent hardware.

And people rightfully criticize Nintendo. They criticize Nintendo for their other wrongdoings more because the controller thing is really just a drop in the hat.

Are you good? I dont think im being aggressive here but you’re coming off as really toxic.

I did forget about Nintendo but to be fair, people hate the shit out of Nintendo. Microsoft and Sony controllers have been pretty plug and play for me though.

Sony and Xbox controllers are plug and play on almost any computer I’ve used and even some phones. What do you mean?

And we are able to freely criticize them about it. If any other company did the same people would be irate.

Why would you drink rum out of a whiskey glass?

Its a problem that it works that way not that it wasent advertised. Sure it works with steam but im betting people expected it to work like a basic controller outside of steam as well like xinput. Even the Xbox controller does this. Yes theres an app you can get to use the extra functions but my elite controller works like a normal controller without that app especially because I mainly use linux now.

There are a lot of people who link controllers to their phone either to game on their phone or stream games to their phone and I do not think the controller would work in that case.

Edit for some clarification: Steam is required for the controller to work and it only works for games added to Steam according to the article this means that:

• You cant run games and use the controller outside of Steam

• You cant stream games from your own PC outside of SteamLink or use the controller as a controller for a phone or even any projects you might have.

This only accounts for a small amount of users sure but why should they be getting shafted when they dont have to be?

Where is really bad though is unless the driver is initialized on the log in screen what happens to your controller when you dont have internet? What happens when servers go offline or Valve decides to block your VPN or whatnot? Itll be a brick. I do not want to give any more credit to them I promise you but my Xbox and DualShock controllers work just fine in this situation. (I still do want a Steam controller but I do not want to reward this sort of behavior)

The joysticks on the steam deck are touch sensitive and can bet set as the gyro aim activation you can also set it to be a combination of that + another button so aim down sight and finger on aim joy could activate it if you want or some other combination. Its slick as shit

I did not know that, its unfortunate. At least I guess its not some blind hate

Were the russians military or politicians or something?

Thats just wild logic there. Im not saying you’re right or wrong but I personally struggle to see how that would make sense. To me its like taking the on fire bus we are all on and deciding to let the crazy guy swerve us all off the cliff rather than at least keep going so some people can jump off, or work out a better solution. Instead people are much more certainly going to die and be hurt

But is that worse than what has happened and is going to happen now that its been given to the right?

Ifixit was SUPPOSED to sell replacement mobos. It was advertised everywhere but now they silently do not anymore

Ive done a shell swap on my steam deck and while Its worth it and it looks amazing it was a PROCESS because you have to unglue the screen and the touch pads (if you want to swap those too) you basically disassemble the entire device