u/Gorgritch_umie_killa — Gorgritch_Umie_Killa

What will they do!? Cross the Rubicon?!

So no Jewish peoples lived there before the State of Israel you reckon?... hmm

Leaving the above aside, because its a dead end for both of us. The removal of any peoples, just like Israel is trying to do to the Palestinians now, won't lead to a peaceful future.

Take it from a person whose a product of colonisations, invasions, and genocides. The marks aren't erased by moving the opposing people on. History is always remembered, something Israel is going to learn the hard way.

The only options for the future are a form of historical pragmatism, or a continuing series of violent crimes against each other, with the turns of history favouring one population with more strength over the other at different times.

it should have never been made our problem

The cleaves between the faiths have exsisted there for thousands of years. Israel is a new power, but the participatory Abrahamic religions are not. Nor are most of the peoples there. Its best to remember European Jewish weren't the only peoples to build up Israel.

I think you've gone too far with your comment.

Not freeriding, it was a comfortable relationship for the most part where the US got an outsized influence over another continents internal and external affairs. The US got plenty out of that deal.

But it is a mistake the US alligned world has made to rely so heavily on the USA for so much defence infrastructure.

For years i thought the holdout behaviour of the French from defence, agriculture, to even the internet was admirable and sensible policy. I could never understand why people guffawed at the French' more independently minded policies.

I really hope USA's trumpstain has driven the point home now that US aligned Nations need to be more independent from the USA in many aspects of their national interest.