u/FarraigePlaisteach — FarraigePlaisteaċ

I respect the considerations the mods have to be conscious of, but can I ask if this is the stance of feddit.org or just this community? Unfortunately I’ll have to block any group that requires complicity to genocide by ignoring the elephant in the room. Again, nothing personal.

This is such a devastatingly regressive step for humanity and global politics.

At this point, it’s clear this isn’t a good-faith exchange. I’m done engaging, but I stand by everything I’ve said and I trust that readers can distinguish substance from noise.

You say you want nuance, yet your language is anything but. Criticising genocide and state violence isn’t tribalism. It’s recognising power asymmetry. When you deny that asymmetry, you support the oppressor by default.

Dual-use tech and military platforms do enable broader operations, including blockade and control. Acknowledging that isn’t a team sport. It’s responsibility. Claiming you are effectively censored because of other extremists is performative centrism.

I hear you. You want to focus on the specifics of the military supplies. But it’s important to recognize that Germany’s involvement in providing any military support to Israel is complicit in the larger picture. The claim that the supplies are defensive or not used in Gaza doesn’t fully address the larger strategic implications. Even if the gear isn’t directly deployed in Gaza it strengthens Israel’s overall military posture. This allows Israel to maintain control and continue actions that are widely criticized as genocidal. Germany’s role in enabling this, regardless of the specifics of the arms delivered, cannot be dismissed simply because of the type of equipment supplied.

As for your point on “genocide” and the use of certain terms, I think we can agree that the international community is divided on how to define this, but it’s clear that any form of ongoing violence against mostly women and children, whether using specific types of weapons or not, plays into a larger cycle of harm. Instead of focusing on the specific classification of military equipment, it’s more sincere to consider the broader implications of Germany’s support for Israel’s actions, especially when it's involvement is a key part of sustaining that military capacity.

Al Jazeera and FT are reporting on it too. But what’s your issue with the Intercept?

I have no idea myself. The group I would like to see this would be institutions rather than the average person.

The ICJ has not ruled that genocide isn’t happening though, has it. Please show me where it does and I will happily wait. It has ruled that there is a plausible case for genocide and that Israel must take steps to prevent it. That is why the case is ongoing. The fact that you’re misrepresenting this ruling as a dismissal of genocide claims is, in fact, disinformation.

Germany is one of Israel’s largest arms suppliers. War crimes and crimes against humanity don’t only require bombs and bullets—they also require the financial and logistical infrastructure that Germany helps provide during the assault on Gaza.

People have a right to live in safety and dignity. That includes Palestinians, who are being systematically displaced, starved, and slaughtered. Germany’s repression of peaceful protest against this is another sign of its complicity.

If you’re truly so invested in “factual reasons,” then you should engage with the actual content of international rulings and human rights reports rather than dismissing criticism as propaganda. It's an irresponsible way to conduct online discourse.

Is international law propaganda now? I've only heard Zionists say that. Are the headlines of UN health workers found buried with their hands tied behind their backs propaganda?

"Israel has a right to exist" is one of the biggest red herrings in political discourse. It's phrased to portray an abuser as a victim.

Israel does *not* have the right to do what it's doing now according to international law. Peaceful protestors in Germany have the weight of heavy handed policing coming down on them for this subject alone, exclusive of other subjects. Even a meeting with Francesca Albenese turned nasty - not at the hands of the group, but the German state.

There's more to just weaponry to a genocide, and Germany is complicit. So next time you're pontificating about facts, don't forget to include all of them. And check your definition of "propaganda".

Good to see this verdict. If she doesn’t see the inside of a prison then I might not consider it dealt with properly.

The total number of cars present isn’t specified in the article so I’m unable to grade their work.

Old news is usually “new” to a lot of people. I should look into it myself as someone who has a vote in EU elections.

This deserves a post of its own.

Damn. No chlorinated chicken for Europeans I guess.

Could they not move it to a halfway point between the two?