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I'd say as an Index owner, hold off. The frame is expensive and there still isn't a big library of must have VR games. The frame makes a bit more sense if you dont have a steam deck I guess but not much more at this price point. If youre just buying it for the VR experience then it may be a disappointment at the moment and at that price.

Sadly I thibk PC VR will continue to grow slowly as the Frame is too expensive to really expand the market. The AI tech bubble really sucks.

The plan was likely cheaper but component prices are mad currently. It makes sense to launch but the price means it won't hit sales targets. Hopefully if the AI bubble bursts, component prices will drop and the Frame price will drop. But looks doubtful in the next year at least.

Its very unlikely a PCVR only version will come out; they won't want tp cannabalise sales for the frame and the big thing for them is this is an all-in-one which is the holy grail.

I doubt a refresh version will come out unless its cheaper components. Its likely the AI bubble will keep prices high for a while and the steam frame won't get the sales expected for some years. Hopefully though valve will be ready in a few years for frame 2 and prices may have normalised from this current madness.

I'd expect steam deck 2 in the next 2-3 years if prices come down, and frame won't be going anywhere for 5 years I think. Instead hopefully if component prices come down, frame prices will come down in the next 2 years.

I'd change that to: who even needs a full 256GB library of vr games let alone 1tb? If willing to delete and download games as needed 256GB really is plenty. And if tethering it to a PC then the storage becomes irrelevant.

I'm confused - isn't the Steam Frame ARM based, and using FEX? The article talks about future devices but doesn't mention the big new device that will be using FEX in 2026?

I wonder why they're making a Linux native version? It is one of the ironies of Proton that windows native games are so easy to install it seems a bit pointless? But also making games for Linux is ironically difficult as it's difficult to support long term as they can break as libraries change over time.

It feels like we need a Flatpak style set up for Linux native games which may help games launch stable long term versions that won't "break" if newer libraries don't work with them. Flatpaks "bring your own dependencies" approach is more similar to how windows games often work with their own dlls (even to the point of installing old versions of directx when needed) except without windows annoying set up of spraying dlls all over your hard drive making them difficult to clean up when you uninstall a game.

Although arguably Steam already deals with that on both Linux and Windows currently. But it is proprietary. And maybe Flatpak is already that solution? Maybe Appimage too although not sure how well a 30gb would run from a single file virtual file system? Is it native speeds or have some overhead?

Yeah, how's that going with Hungary? We cannot rely on the EU to enforce civil rights or freedoms. The UK needs to sort that ourselves.

Bringing in proportional representation is far more important than rejloining the EU in my opinion. That would be better for repairing the UK.

Yeah that'd work if there is no special treatment for French farmers etc too. People like to paint Brexit as a simplistic thing - some kind of simplistic jingositic thing - but actually it was complex and multifaceted - the common agricultural policy, the democratic deficit in the centre of the EU, the constant paralysis instead of decision making. All these things contributed as different people voted on different grounds. The loud and bombastic voices of Farrage and Johnson may have dominated the media narrative but it barely scratches the surface of how deep the divisions over Europe actually go.

The reality is I don't think the UK would vote to rejoin even if people regret leaving. Any deal to rejoin would be worse than what was lost particularly around joining the Eurozone and the disproportionate cost of membership in terms of subsidising CAP etc. It'd be a very difficult sell to the UK voters and as we get further from Brexit the damage is perceived to be less and less.

The EU needs serious reform. I wanted to remain as I thought Britain could have besn a voice to push that but looking at how the EU is currently I don't want to rejoin. I wouldn't want to be be in the EU while Hungary can hold everything up and is not accountable for its loss of democracy. Poland just avoided a damaging right wing government for now, but they already diamantled much of the liberal state and the left are struggling to rebuild it. France is divided 3 ways and the upcoming presidential election brings much uncertainty. I can't imaging any politician in Europe wants to even think about Britain rejoining, and in the UK it remains a highly divisive and controversial topic.

I'm glad people in the EU are patriotic about it, and want it to succeed. As a Brit I want it to succeed too. But genuinely as much as I wanted to stay I would vote against rejoining if asked right now. There is not a clamour to rejoin at the present - people may regret Brexit but that is not the same as wanting to go through the bruising process of rejoining.

Interesting article but it's a little scant on the facts for the cities themselves. Like how much have their economies grown? What are there tax bases like?

The stuff it highlights about the asymmetric commute make sense, and the income tax going to Copenhagen. But what of the benefits to Malmö such as its own growth, and money coming in from workers spending in shops, paying local property tax? Or is it a net drain due to providing services with a smaller income tax base?

It feels like the article scratches the surface of a potentially very interesting topic that could be looked at in much more depth. Cross border cities is a big global topic and particularly in Europe where people have freedom of movement yet with their income tax benefiting employing countries while resident countries have to supply services.

We use it at work because it's intergrated into Office. I suspect that's why most people use it.

Typical Microsoft tactic for domination - bundle it in, integrate it and then people won't try other stuff. Anti-trust / Anti-monopolies laws used to be used to fine and stop this, but now they can do whatever they want.

Yeah its wine/proton and linux together. Wine/Proton efficiently handles translating the Windows programmes API calls into POSIX calls while Linux seems to offer a lower OS overhead so there is more system resource available for the games.

I do think Proton gets a little too much credit. Its wine plus faudio, dxvk and other open source projects combined. Proton is great but it is standing on the shoulders of giants.

This is a nonsense. The drinks industry don't want bourbon tariffs in the hope that will mean there won't be tarrifs on EU booze. But there are blanket tarriffs on all EU products, so relenting on Bourbon specifically will do nothing but benefit the US drinks industry.

Robert Habeck is right - the EU is in a position of strength standing together and should target any response to most hurt the US President.

The US will have blanket tarrifs which are essentially a tax on Americans. The EU can't directly affect those but it also should not have blanket tarrifs on US goods as that will just damage the EU economy further. Instead it should have targeted tarrifs and other measures designed to hit the US (particularly republican states - thats why bourbon was picked in the first place), and meanwhile work with other tariff hit countries to lower the cost of business in their directions.

One way to look at it, is if its now 20% more expensive to sell resources and goods to the US, its actually 20% relatively cheaper to do business with the rest of the world. So thats where growth is going to come from. Tarrif US stuff that strategically benefits Europe (cars for example), don't tariff other US stuff so the EU benefits and look to the rest of the world for growth and opportunities.

In some ways the US is handing the EU a golden opportunity to take over much of the US economic influence and power around the world.

Also they dont "owe" the US anything. Trump has a cretinous understanding of economics.

This is just Mafia like extortion. It doesnt really matter now if/when these tariffs are undone - Trump has totally destroyed the US reputation as a reliable ally and trade partmer.

No deal with the US is worth the paper its written on, as everything is dependent on the whims of one person.

Presidential systems are sources of weakness and instabilty it seems. They're no better than monarchs, and the whole system can easily be twisted into dictatorship. Look at Russia and now the US.

Its likely the friendly words will continue but the EU will delay Serbia joining.

The EU is dealing with Hungary already, plus looking with concern at whats happening in Slovakia.

Serbia won't be joining the EU any time soon, and the EU will string Serbia along in the meantime watching what happens. They won't want any more authoritarian regimes joining. Hungary is already a huge thorn in the aide of the EU.

Given trump loves name calling his enemies, I'm surprised he's not just routinely called Traitor Trump.

A lingua franca isn't controllable. French was the lingua franca as it had been the dominant language of trade. Then the British Empire and later USA emerged and dominated global trade, and it became the lingua franca through shear necessity.

In the tech age, English has also become the lingua franca which is likely to cement it's position into the future. In Europe, it's been a convenient second language for many as it allowed Europeans to compete in global trade and also talk to each other with 1 common language, also avoiding nationalist concerns around language. English has also been less controversial as a second language than everyone learning French or German for example given the history of previous european wars.

A language isn't owned by any country, so it doesn't matter that the US is going crazy or that the UK left the EU. English is likely to stay the lingua franca in the west and in Europe as so many people already speak it, it's already well established in schools and culture and in all honesty there isn't an obvious alternative.

In terms of economics, China is powerful but Chinese is spoken largely by one country, and is hard for Europeans to learn due to how fundamentally different it is. India is emerging as an economy, with English it's own lingua franca in a continent divided by numerous languages. Urdu is being pushed by the hindu nationalist government but the global reality is that speaking english is a strength for Indian citizens in trade and global work place, so it's unlikely people will stop learning and speaking English in India in the foreseeable future.

The only other viable alternative in global terms currently for Europe would be Spanish due to the shear number of native speakers. But the problem remains that most Europeans don't speak Spanish and while there is a large number of spanish speakers, they are heavily concentrated in the Americas. Meanwhile English is already spoken widely in Europe, North America outside of Mexico, India, and many other former British Colonies including widely in Africa, Oceania and across Asia.

It's certainly possible things may change, but at the moment it seems unlikely. We're not seeing a huge trend of people moving away from English. One possibility though is that translation apps become near instantaneous and people move away from learning any 2nd language. However I personally think that is unlikely as a translation app can never be perfectly instantaneous due to the nature of grammer - you need the whole of a sentence to translate into another language with a totally different sentence structure, especially for longer and more complex sentences.

So I think it's unlikely English will be displaced as the lingua franca. It is also unneeded - it benefits Europe that a European language is the lingua franca (regardless of the UK exiting the EU etc), and it also benefits Europe as so many Europeans speak English - so the best thing for Europe is to help spread English, and offer a different influence and culture from the US with other English speakers particuarly in emerging economies. English can be Europe's trojan horse for sharing it's culture and values.

Its interesting - the article has taken one view of this as the the target being Palestinian children.

However reading this, the target actually seems to he the "prank" victims. Young people are goading older israelis into showing how angry, biased and racist they are when asked to help Palestinian children, and then sharing that and laughing at them?

It feels like Israeli children are mocking Israeli adults. Its a bit crass but the targets aren't really Palestinian children. If anything its showing just how racist Israeli adults are.

Of course there is also the disturbing element of Israeli children seeing this all as just a joke, and not seeming to care about what this means about their parents and the country they live in. To see people get so viscerally angry when asked to help starving children is shocking yet I don't think the Israeli youth seem atnall disrtubed by how hateful the people they're talking to really are.

Unfortunately all your games on Steam are a license to run the game not ownership of the game. This was true on CD and dvd too but unenforceable. Now it's enforceable and publishers can dictate how you play their games.

I guess publishers could say you're not allowed to use Steam Proton with their games too. But presumably Valve could say you're not welcome on their platform unless you support all their tools.

Now if Valve set up a cloud streaming service... That would be an interesting thing. I wonder where the publishers would stand?

In terms of your connection, LAN and WAN isn't really going to be the way to go except for some very specific scenarios.

The Steam Deck and almost all multiplayer games connect via Internet servers and your steam accounts. Some games you can host and your friend connects directly via the Internet - games are designed to support that so you often don't need to resort to local LAN/WiFi play.

It doesn't matter that you're next door to each other - you might as well be miles away from each other for all it matters - you both just need good stable internet connections to the remote servers, with decent speed and your Internet routers not too restrictive on your connections (firewalls not blocking access, relevant ports open).

So basically ensure you have a good WiFi connection. Even better you can also get USB c ethernet dongles or a dock for your steam deck with ethernet to connect to your router directly and avoid WiFi.

I play with my steam deck docked under the TV, ethernet connection to my router, hdmi to my TV and an xbox controller and Bluetooth headphones. I play on the couch with all the benefits of the steam deck.

Both of you docking your steam decks with ethernet connections to your Internet routers may give you a better experience.

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In terms of games to try:

• Phasmophobia - you can cooperatively try and hunt ghosts, horror game but can be a lot of fun

• Keep talking and nobody explodes - coop game where you diffuse a bomb, hectic but not needing fps reactions

• Divinity: Original Sin 1 & 2 - RPG games which can be played in Co op mode, with tactical combat

• Baldurs Gate 3 - similar to above, same makers but hugely popular and highly regarded game

• Valheim - coop survival game - explore and build a base, defeats bosses etc

• Stardew Valley - super cosy farming sim, with simple combat. It's a very chill multiplayer experience - can just chat away (or not) while building up your joint farm

There are loads of co-op type games that work well on the Steam Deck.