Gisele Pelicot awarded France's highest civilian honor

Damn that's an angry response. Depardieu and Abbé Pierre have both been accused of rape, not just groping.

In French cinema everybody knew about Depardieu. He's publicly admitted rapes, multiple times. And we only know what has been made public. Seeing how he acts and what he says in front of a camera, I can only imagine how far he allows himself to go in private.

The Vatican knew about Abbé Pierre since the 1950s at least and didn't do shit.

They're no Fritzl or Dahmer, but being able to keep the highest recognition of the country, despite all this, is just spitting in the face of people like Gisèle Pelicot who faced and fought people like them.

Also let's maybe not rank suffering, it's not a fucking competition. The fact that people get abused at work, doesn't diminish the fact that people get raped or assaulted ? What it tells us is that, maybe, we should do something about it, as a fucking civilised country.

Who is?

That's a lot of inference you're expecting people to make from : Legion d'Honneur has previously had inductees guilty of crimes that Gisele Pelicot testified against. Je ne sais pas, bro. I don't feel like anyone is calling for other highest honours in the land to be belittled, or that the list of previous recipients means anything in relation to the significance conveyed by those awards today. Just seems like "well akshually..." without any real point. Especially since Depardieu is awaiting an appeal for a crime, which if it fails, will have him stripped of his title and Pierre is dead. You cannot posthumously strip someone the title. So, it's much ado about nothing.

But it isn't incongruent. Because Depardieu and Pierre were not honoured for, or, in-spite of their crimes. Their crimes were not public knowledge at the time of their inductions. Depardieu is probably going to be stripped from the Legion d'Honneur anyway, unless his appeal goes through. Pierre is dead, so cannot stand trial to be found guilty. Implying congruence supposes a direct knowledge, or tacet endorsement of those crimes.. So, it's not incongruent for Gisele to be inducted into Legion d'Honneur, because Depardieu and Pierre were not knowingly inducted for, or in-spite of their crimes. Which makes this irony, dressed up as an institutional failing, which it is not.

That maybe we should strip people of these decorations and titles if they're convicted?

And besides, because of shit like this, the Legion d'Honneur is a meme in France nowadays.

Relevant incongruity.

They are the type of person who would attend public hangings or burning people alive in medieval times and bring fucking popcorn and cheer it on.

That's ALL it is.

Gerard Depardieu has been found guilty of a crime recently, and unless the appeal goes through, he will then automatically be stripped of his Legion d'Honneur

Posthumous exclusion of the Legion is straight up not a thing, so there is no point in talking about Abbé Pierre

Yes and Jimmy Saville was Knighted, Roman Polanski has an Oscar and the inventor of leaded gasoline was awarded a Nobel Prize for his creation. What is your point exactly?

Groping somebody's ass isn't fucking ass sodomizing rape keeping women chained up in a basement for decades.

It's so fucking ridiculous, not all crimes are death penalty level assault and brain drilling god damned Jeffrey Dahmer style atrocities.

There is fucking nuances in this world, grabbing ass is fucked, don't do that, but stop pretending like he's fucking Joseph Fritzl.

Fuck I'm so tired of this hystericla god damned bullshit. They weren't traumatized, someone grabbed their ass. Holy shit, people endure worse degradation in workplaces daily worldwide, it's such unhinged bullshit to try and pretend like its going to take years of therapy to get over, jesus fuck have some sense of proportionality.

Quick reminder that the list of Legion d'Honneur includes many many sexual predators, including but not limited to Gérard Depardieu and Abbé Pierre.

Ok that is ridiculous.

She got an award for being gang raped?

As fucking horrific that that is, and for her *astounding* bravery....

Well...

Eh, you know what.

I changed my mind mid rant.

Yeah she deserves it for having the spine to tell her story without a hint of victimhood because that shit was not on her, but the cockroaches that did it to her, she has nothing to be ashamed of.

Imagine all the people this happens to who don't come forward out of the shame they'd face.

Woo, this was a wild ride of thoughts.