Orbán: “Ukraine is not NATO member and I intend to keep it that way”

>Quote: "NATO has no business in Ukraine. Ukraine, just like Russia, isn't a NATO member, and my job is to make sure it stays that way."

He said it was "his job" but never mentioned who he works for

If the next year's elections fail and Orbán stays in power then we can start calling it Western Belarus from then on.

Do a Quaternon. No part of Hungary stays independent.

I am sure many of them want to.

Around May next year. Might not be the _right_ thing we're both thinking of, but at least there will be elections in 2026.

"There’s nobody that’s better, smarter or a better leader than Viktor Orbán. He’s fantastic. He's a noncontroversial figure because he said, ‘This is the way it’s going to be,’ and that’s the end of it, right? He’s the boss and … he’s a great leader, fantastic leader. In Europe and around the world, they respect him."

Donald Trump

one might think the people of Hungary would feel the same way and would protest accordingly, but so far everyone seems very apathic to the fat autocrat in charge

It's so selfish and low...

Yup

Should have voted differently then.

Honestly they should already be VERY pissed off

That's their problem.

You are literally saying "fucking moron" to something you imagined yourself and I didn't write.

You are right.

You say "maybe" like it's some unknowable quantity, but we can see what is going on in Hungary and that it's getting increasingly authoritarian, and we can see Russian attempts to influence western democracies through bot farms and the like. It's not unknowable; the evidence is there.

This is the sort of stupidification of issues that we see from bot farms: cherry pick one point, then blow it out of proportion so that there's no more nuance, no more gray, no room for middle ground.

Everything becomes black and white, polarised, simple: with us or against us.

Fucking moron.

He who sucketh a dick can accommodate a second one.

Why are you crossing out China?

Because Orban is Putin's puppet, irrespectively of any Chinese investment.

Why are you crossing out China?

Did you miss the massive investments China is doing there, to buy influence?

Here's one: https://www.businessinsider.com/satellite-photos-show-byds-massive-hungary-factory-taking-shape-2025-4

This just hands over an EU country to the Russian ~~and Chinese~~ influences

Far too late for that. Orban is a Russian shill and should be treated accordingly.

Few years outside of the EU, with closed borders and no new funds may cause Hungarians to proudly follow Romanian way with Orban ending like Caucescu.

Lose one, gain multiple.

It isn't as big an issue as you make it out to be.

So basically what they’re doing to every other western nation.

You mean western nations' government policies are all perfect and people pushing against them are Russian shills? And making their politicians look bad?

Maybe those governments and politicians are Russia-infiltrated, and these complaints are resistance.

This just hands over an EU country to the Russian and Chinese influences, which is why Hungary is where it's at in the first place.

This is the kind of thing that needs covert counter-ops: undermine and question orban at every online forum, constantly make Putin look bad, push against every single government policy, etc.

So basically what they're doing to every other western nation.

This.

Just suspend them until they meet NATO and EU standards again. It would really suck for Hungary and it's neighbors to fall into full Russian control.

I don't think there's any need to evict it to pressure it to vote the right way.

So Hungary blocking things is a collective performance.

Or maybe not, then the leverage they gain from veto is more than the pressure put at them. In such case that leverage is apparently damn big and they are a small country.

I think if it comes to that, the Hungarian people will be VERY pissed off.

Toady looks like toad.

A journalist should ask him if Trump's asshole tastes like Putin's dick.

That's diplomatic of you, but those house locks and your wife's autonomy invited the home invaders in the first place. You have to be more preemptive about this.

I agree when invaders break into my house I cook them dinner and ask if they want to fuck my wife too.

Books are where it's at!

Zdrastvuytie Sasha, one comment and five rubels in your pocket.

Sometimes you have to be that when a completely separate nation invades your sovereign nation illegally.

They are at least not as fishy as putin, damn that man stinks.

Fish rots from the head first.

Yeah, with their filthy newspapers.

for a second I thought A-H stood for Adolf-Hitler lol

those acronyms will one day be the death of me

Austria isn't as blatant as Hungary but their policy is also pretty russia-friendly.

And there is a reason A-H collapsed and it wasn't just because of WW1 and Bosnian Serbs. Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Romanians or basically anybody who wasn't German or Hungarian hated the monarchy in the end(With the possible exception of the Croats, who reached some kind of agreement with Hungarians right before the collapse).

Can't we just combine Austria and Hungary again? Everybody loved that.

Well, except Bosnian Serbs I guess.

Yeah, at least we know that Ukrainians aren't fifth columnists.

I'm more of a fan of that one than the Turkish one. Hope it doesn't come to that!

When faced with the choice of good relations with the EU (including funding and cooperation) and standing with Putin, Magyar may, unlike Orban, make the pragmatic choice.

Seems like we usually do. Still the sick man of Europe, I guess

When you have someone blow the double of the whole healthcare budget on Ukraine fearmongering, who has been supported by a practically unlimited EU budget, it becomes hard to campaign on Ukraine.

Magyar pledged to have a referendum on Ukraine joining, when the question actually comes up. I don't know what else he can do right now, considering the situation.

Most Hungarians support the unconditional early joining of Ukraine BTW, and a lot more support it if conditions are kept.

While he's not as extreme as Órban, Magyar is also against helping Ukraine defend itself, and he's being at least ambivalent about letting join the EU and NATO after the war.

We might have a Hungary problem, not a Fidesz problem.

I thought you were talking about Ukraine's head of UAV forces for a second lol

I'd trade Ukraine getting NATO membership if it means Hungary loses it.

Evict Hungary from the EU and NATO

I'll celebrate the day when the people of Hungary do the right thing.

Damn, I hate this man so much.

Won’t someone rid us of this turbulent shitstain?

FTFH: Orbán: “Ukraine is not NATO member and I ~~intend~~ *was commanded by Putin* to keep it that way”

good thing our glorious german arms manufacturer Rheinmetall (creators of the Leopard tanks) built the world's most high-tech tank factory in fucking Hungary of all places. Putin will soon sport some sleak looking new MBT's in Ukraine thanks to us greedy Germans :)

Of course he will keep it that way. He won't have the time to continue sucking off Putin if he has to think about NATO membership. Hungary needs to flush that miserable turd down the political toilet once and for all.

Homie looks like the heel of a foot. Putin sure knows how to pick the pretty ones.

Hungary should follow Slovakia’s proposal and leave NATO.

I hate this ugly fuck

We'll just have to see what Magyar thinks about it then.

Do we need to do Trianon again?

I will make sure you and sadly your people will be dropped by the EU

So, once the US has ditched NATO to partner with Putin, Orban, Millei, etc..

WILL THE REMAINDER OF NATO SMARTEN-UP AND GET READY FOR THE BEING-RAMPAGED THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SUBJECTED-TO by Putin+Trump+Orban+GlobalRightWing??

XOR are we going to sit on our hands waiting, denying right to our country's deaths, resonsibility for our own survival??

Humankind may-well *deserve* extinguishing, if humankind **won't** do what it needs to do, to survive..

Orban needs to be removed from the EU, and from TrueNATO.

Yesterday.

This has been true since it became obvious that he was Putin's agent/representative, a few years ago.

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Ukraine is fishy especially their presiden.