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Israel Launches Operation Rising Lion To Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Program

c/world · u/BombOmOm@lemmy.world · 175 points

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u/Madison420@lemmy.world · 2 points

Pretty much yeah, a dirty bomb is usually better used as an actual bomb. If you just want to kill a bunch of people rapidly in terrifying ways then gases are your best guess. Almost all the real bad ones are shit you can just make yourself if you have the base chemicals. Phosgene gas for one is available commercially for industry. Colorless with a benign smell but fatalities are often long after exposure so you could start a pretty rowdy leak in a population center and unless they're a WW1 vet most aren't likely to know the smell. You'd have a ton dead near instantly and a lot of people going home and living their lives for up to like 5 days and all of a sudden you get real bad and drop dead kinda out of the blue.

u/Madison420@lemmy.world · 2 points

They're just not that useful they were a boogie man to hunt terrorists and later testimony came out that basically said it was all made up to hunt terrorists.

u/Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 1 points

Well yeah, Iran probably could make a nuke today with what they have. The difference is if they did that and shot it at Israel and the nuke fails they would still have a dirty bomb plan B.

u/Saleh@feddit.org · 16 points

Iran not being the cartoon villain that decades of Zionist propaganda claims it to be.

u/BombOmOm@lemmy.world · 7 points

The international response would be much stronger if Iran did something like that. Much like chemical weapons, actually employing such tools brings on unwanted responses.

u/belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 points

The IR brutalizes its people, but doesn't treat other countries directly that way

It would be political suicide

u/kreskin@lemmy.world · 4 points

Whats to stop Israel from doing it is the significantly better question. Iran is concerned about global backlash and Israel is clearly not.

u/Madison420@lemmy.world · 2 points

Dirty bombs really aren't the issue everyone wants them to be. If you have enough to make a meaningful dirty bomb it's more rational to refine it and make an actual nuke.

u/Godric@lemmy.world · -7 points

IAEA board declares Iran in breach of non-proliferation obligations - https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iaea-board-declares-iran-breach-non-proliferation-duties-diplomats-say-2025-06-12/

Maybe if the world's #1 funder of terrorism wasn't building nukes they wouldn't be bombed.

u/Maalus@lemmy.world · 8 points

Iran doesn't have nukes. Israel has been fearmongering about them having nukes since 92' and it was always "a year away from a bomb". None of that happened. This is an attack on a sovereign nation with the completely idiotic "preventative attack" defense (i.e. they'd have attacked us first, we had to defend ourselves!). Fun fact, this is exactly what Russia claims Ukraine would've done if they hadn't invaded them first. They also claim NATO as the aggressor and would love to pull the same "move" on NATO too.

u/NewDark@lemmings.world · 4 points

I specified the publication but here's a link (pay walled) https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-05-28/ty-article-magazine/.premium/yes-to-transfer-82-of-jewish-israelis-back-expelling-gazans/00000197-12a4-df22-a9d7-9ef6af930000

u/torrentialgrain@lemm.ee · -1 points

Maybe idk. Don’t want to defend Israel, just the notion that everyone there is on board with what’s happening.

u/HK65@sopuli.xyz · 12 points

But not the genocide. They just don't like Hamas hitting back

u/NewDark@lemmings.world · 6 points

Half are in favor of killing all the Gazan Palestinians and something like 80-90% are down with fully ethnically cleansing Gaza (source haaretz). I could also drag out the poll from about a year ago where the vast majority of Israelis agreed that the force used in Gaza was "just right" or "not enough".

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u/NewDark@lemmings.world · 13 points

Firstly, Israeli society writ large is incredibly fascist and generally on board with this shit.

Second, they aren't idiots, just demons, especially the US. Most western powers are basically vassals to the US empire and any individual country trying to break from our adenda will pay dearly.

Thankfully, we're doing a wonderful job isolating ourselves lately, so it's possible more worldwide resistance will flourish. It will cost a lot of people's lives and livelihoods in the death throes of empire though.

u/Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 6 points

Problem is our fucking leaders are all insane religious nut jobs that believe that nuking our the destruction of Israel will somehow bring Jesus back. Its fucking insane. Same reason Israel believe it is their biblical right to overtake and destroy Palestine.

u/Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 4 points

You're right. The negotiations were a ruse. If Iran can't respond decisively they will repeat the approach used in Lebanon and Syria, decapitation strikes and degrading their military while fomenting internal rebellion. The goal is obviously regime change.

u/JoeKrogan@lemmy.world · 11 points

The US will raise a stink if anyone else does it. They will allow israel free reign .

u/victorz@lemmy.world · 1 points

It definitely *rings* true. I would've dismissed it more easily years ago but these days these things seem more plausible. It's a scary thought.

It feels kind of related too though, right? You were both talking about at least tangential things. The powers that be are allowed to do anything because the public allows it. Kinda? 🤷‍♂️ I dunno.

u/timewarp@lemmy.world · 1 points

conspiracy bullshit

isn’t to say it’s entirely untrue

Well I guess we'll find out won't we.

u/ddplf@szmer.info · 0 points

Sorry, but you seem to have really wanted to throw in your conspiracy bullshit. That isn't to say it's entirely untrue (just for the most part), but still very much unrelated.

u/timewarp@lemmy.world · 3 points

My point is Zionism is imperialism & fascism rebranded, & if you live in the US then prepare. Trump idolizes dictators for a reason & this attack is part of the plan.

Trump's base is largely composed of indoctrinated followers via a network of "faith" & "thought" leaders, who idealize an authoritarian world.

Years ago powerful individuals found a symbiotic relationship with politicians, working together to systematically brainwash the vulnerable, ignorant, & gullible. In return they benefited financially, while being able to discriminate & punish people trying to leave their control systems.

They found keeping people down, anxious, confused, scared, traumatized, & complacent was all they needed to gain consent. People agreed to be monitored & surveilled. For low wages or a music subscription, people blindly accepted the terms. They dismantled the protections & no one did anything.

Once Iran retaliates, you'll be expected to accept the narrative. Slave labor is what they're after & you're the target. The dissenters, resisters, etc. will be made to accept Trump as their king... unless.

u/ddplf@szmer.info · 5 points

Sorry, what exactly is your point that goes beyond the comment you're replying to?

u/victorz@lemmy.world · 0 points

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism 🤷‍♂️ seems pretty specific to me. I didn't read the whole article though. Maybe I'm missing something.

But yeah, either way, like the other person asked: what's your point?

u/BestBouclettes@jlai.lu · 16 points

That's the most worrying thing, if you can't hold Israel responsible for this in the face of international law, literally nothing is stopping any other country from doing the same.

u/ProvableGecko@lemmy.world · 13 points

>The Zionist regime is completely out of control.

There are high ranking Hamas officials in Qatar. They openly conduct diplomacy there on behalf of Hamas and it is quite likely they are involved in the operation of Hamas. Why doesn't Israel just do airstrikes on Qatar and execute them like they executed Ismail Haniyeh in Iran? Are they more afraid of smol bean Qatar than Iran?

Nope. It's because the US won't let Israel attack Qatar but not only the US will let Israel loose on Iran as we see now, the US will defend Israel against retaliation, both militarily and otherwise. Like we have seen the US do for the past 19 months.

Everything is under control.

u/UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 5 points

You know all those weapons we diverted from Ukraine to Isreal and the middle east, I don't think Isreal is acting alone.

u/timewarp@lemmy.world · -8 points

The Zionist regime is mostly just another word for religious extremist, doesn't matter what their religion is or if they actually believe it. What matters is that their followers & supporters believe it.

u/echo@lemmings.world · 87 points

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u/Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 70 points

The Zionist regime is completely out of control. They commit genocide and launch aggressive attacks on countries and face literally no consequences . Global security is at stake.

u/PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world · 45 points

It's so sad and bizarre. All the nations just stand by like idiots, while this one bloodlusting madman butchers all around.

u/Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 11 points

What's to stop Iran from just launching a dirty missile at Israel? Wouldn't interpreting it still cause a bunch of nuclear waste in Israel?

Not advocating for that, but I am just surprised I never see the topic come up.

u/MITM0@lemmy.world · 10 points

Isn't deliberately targetting a nation's MAD capabilities (as in their nukes) kind of a big no-no in international law ??