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Ukraine Engages in Massive Escalation Against Russia on Eve of Talks; Smuggled in Drone Hit Airbases; Claims of 40 Bombers Destroyed [*naked capitalism*]

c/worldnews · u/davel@lemmy.ml · 1 points

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u/Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 0 points

Out of left field with the US talking point.

They should try it the same way Ukraine did. I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

u/Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 1 points

I agree, I should be allowed to keep all of my completely identical guns after shooting at my neighbor, so long as they were put away properly.

u/yogthos@lemmy.ml · 0 points

Ah yes, Russia using bombers stationed in, checks notes, Siberia to carry out strikes in Ukraine. You are a genius.

u/anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 points

the reason the bombers were in the open is due to Russian compliance with the START treaty.

First, Russia suspended it's participation in new START

Second, are you sure that's a requirement of the treaty?

The only relevant article I could find is the following (emphasis mine):

Article X

1. For the purpose of ensuring verification of compliance

with the provisions of this Treaty, each Party undertakes:

(a) to use national technical means of verification at

its disposal in a manner consistent with generally recognized

principles of international law;

(b) not to interfere with the national technical means of

verification of the other Party operating in accordance with

this Article; and

(c) not to use concealment measures that impede

verification, by national technical means of verification, of

compliance with the provisions of this Treaty.

2. The obligation not to use concealment measures includes

the obligation not to use them at test ranges, including

measures that result in the concealment of ICBMs, SLBMs, ICBM

launchers, or the association between ICBMs or SLBMs and their

launchers during testing. **The obligation not to use

concealment measures shall not apply** to cover or concealment

practices at ICBM bases or **to the use of environmental

shelters for strategic offensive arms**.

Looks to me like plane hangars are allowed while the tires on planes that they actually used are illegal as they don't protect against the weather and just exist to fool bad satellite images.

u/Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 0 points

Destroying planes that have been, and would otherwise have continued to be used for, launching missiles at Ukraine… that doesn’t help Ukraine?

Brb, gonna shoot at my neighbor. But I’ll put my gun back in a gun safe afterward so no one will do anything about it.

u/yogthos@lemmy.ml · 0 points

The base houses strategic nuclear bombers, and the reason the bombers were in the open is due to Russian compliance with the START treaty. This isn't disarming Russia in any way that helps Ukraine, and it's a massive escalation of the proxy war between NATO and Russia.

u/tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml · 1 points

This is a riot, I bet you wish Scott Ritter was the least of your worries. This blubbering man who still worships the American military, and can only state his objections to war in libertarian terms e.g. threat of nuclear war & taxpayer spending. No, it's just that to express common sense in the American political establishment you first need to cross over into nationalist neocon psycho territory, or be labelled a traitor, especially by the post-Obama left that would make Joe McCarthy blush with their persecutory fantasies. You people are so beyond fucked.

u/mgnome@lemmy.world · -1 points

Ukraine, not Russia, represents an existential threat to humanity.

Oh fuck off, Scott Ritter.