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Europe has a weaker hand than it thinks on Ukraine

c/europe · u/cm0002@lemmy.world · -13 points

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u/huppakee@lemm.ee · 1 points

When referring to Europe _by US media_, I totally understand what kind of Europe this article refers to but my point is that geography means something different when talking about Europe and I think that is relevant since for example Hungary or Serbia are in the context of the title part of Europe but are also more and more political 'outsiders'. I think this point similar to someone from Canada that America is not only the US.

u/Cypher@lemmy.world · 4 points

Russia usually gets excluded when referring to Europe, that’s just how it works.

Russia has chosen to be an economic and political ‘outsider’ and so gets excluded.

u/huppakee@lemm.ee · 2 points

Yes obviously, but whether a country is European is decided by geography not values.

u/F04118F@feddit.nl · 4 points

There's a fundamental difference in the way the UK and Russia deal with European values such as democracy, freedom of expression, press freedom, etc.

u/DMCMBFNFF@feddit.org · 12 points

Perhaps, insofar that France and UK has a smaller nuclear arsenal than either US or Russia; though 3¼ years into the invasion of Ukraine (not counting 2014 to 2022), I doubt Russia has 25% of the country.

u/DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 10 points

Refusing to play your hand doesn't make it a weak hand, and conservative rags like the FT are a large reason behind the refusal.

u/huppakee@lemm.ee · 6 points

Is it me or is FT sliding further into Fox News territory? There was a time I considered them a good source of information but lately I'm questioning a lot of their journalism. Might be because I don't visit their website and communities like this skew my view but damn they look more and more maga crazy from my pov.

u/rumschlumpel@feddit.org · -5 points

Pretty silly to say "europe" here when the aggressor, Russia, is also a european country. Russia is european the same way that the UK is still european despite Brexit.