Russell Brand pleads not guilty to rape, sexual assault
c/world 路 u/Pro@programming.dev 路 87 points
c/world 路 u/Pro@programming.dev 路 87 points
u/FelixCress@lemmy.world 路 1 points
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u/Eggyhead@lemmings.world 路 1 points
Yes, I know and I agree. Again, I was being facetious in response to the question.
u/FelixCress@lemmy.world 路 2 points
I don't know much about him either apart from being a comedian but "innocent until proven guilty" applies. The same as with all the other cases where there isn't an obvious evidence visible to the public (like for example CCTV) or a perpetrator has been cought in the act.
u/Eggyhead@lemmings.world 路 -3 points
I鈥檓 sorry, I didn鈥檛 really care enough about the guy to look. I was just being facetious in response to the question.
u/FelixCress@lemmy.world 路 4 points
He hasn't been convincted, no?
u/Nougat@fedia.io 路 3 points
I know that in the UK, the judiciary is based on the common law system. This was brought to the colonies, of course, and the judicial system in the US is a codified version of that.
But the basic judicial concepts enshrined in common law in the UK are essentially the same as the ones codified in the US.
u/FelixCress@lemmy.world 路 -1 points
I am not so convinced about this. Your system may be politicised crap with elective judiciary but at least you have a constitution. Outdated, yes but still.
u/Nougat@fedia.io 路 6 points
US, that's true. But I would expect it to be the same in the UK, since our concept of the judicial system really hasn't diverged much, historically speaking.
u/FelixCress@lemmy.world 路 3 points
Out of curiosity, are you referring to the USA or does it work the same in the UK?
u/gedhrel@lemmy.world 路 1 points
In the UK, in general, take advice. If you're bang to rights then a guilty plea (in court, not to the police) can affect sentencing.
Unfortunately, having said that, the UK conviction rate for rape is unbelievably low. "She liked sex ergo she deserved it" is still a line that juries are too willing to buy. It's fucking depressing.
u/Nougat@fedia.io 路 23 points
To expand on this, even if you are caught dead to rights in whatever crime you're charged with, *you plead not guilty at arraignment.* Because once you plead guilty, it's over. You can always change your not guilty plea to guilty later on, if a plea deal negotiated with the prosecutor is satisfactory to you. If you just plead guilty, your ability to negotiate charges and consequences are nilch.
*Any* time you read "So-and-So pleads not guilty" in the news, *it's not news.* It's just what you do when you are charged with a crime.
u/dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 路 2 points
Give me the man and I'll give you the crime. Oh f- no wait!
u/Amanduh@lemm.ee 路 19 points
The rule is "innocent until proven guilty" lol
u/catloaf@lemm.ee 路 39 points
Same thing, which is why this isn't news.
u/Eggyhead@lemmings.world 路 -2 points
Not be convicted of rape, most likely.
u/yesman@lemmy.world 路 -2 points
Not be Russel Brand.
"Guilty until proven innocent" is a rule for the government, not for me. If you disagree, please explain your feelings about the unfair treatment of the innocent non-murderer OJ Simpson.
u/FelixCress@lemmy.world 路 38 points
What would an innocent person do?
u/Zahille7@lemmy.world 路 2 points
I haven't seen him in anything since Bedtime Stories, and that's at least like 15 years old.
u/RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 路 10 points
That and the money drying up
u/Gsus4@mander.xyz 路 3 points
He was a real prick before too. He even had some shows vaguely similar to Joe Rogan.
u/tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 路 0 points
Maybe the pope can hide him along with the rest of the priest rapists
u/Beldarofremulak@discuss.online 路 55 points
So THAT'S why he got all conservative christian out of nowhere!
u/yesman@lemmy.world 路 -6 points
This is exactly what a rapist would do.