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Convicted Russian spies attended Brexit event in Parliament

c/world · u/MonsterMonster@lemmy.world · 456 points

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u/Ledericas@lemm.ee · 4 points

they figured it out in the 80s fight with geopolitics, and TRUMP happened to fall into thier laps at the same time.

u/GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 27 points

they would be if they weren't so terrified of giving away their positions to the drones on the Ukrainian front.

u/BestBouclettes@jlai.lu · 9 points

It's fairly easy to abuse the paradox of tolerance, especially when so many media are in the hands of a handful of people

u/Ledericas@lemm.ee · 7 points

russia sows dissent in order to keep the west to back off from russia imperialistic aims: Ukraine,and every other former soviet state.

u/InvertedParallax@lemm.ee · 4 points

No, they know exactly how inbred conservatives are, they have hordes at home to abuse freely so long as they let them keep their racism.

u/Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee · 4 points

They abused an already decrepit democracy/democracies tho. A failing infrastructure susceptible to basic ads.

u/vegetvs@kbin.earth · 0 points

You do realize that makes it even more disappointing, right? I mean, trying to understand what Brexit was _after_ voting for it? My goodness.

u/Ledericas@lemm.ee · 5 points

hard to ignore trumps speeches include alot of russian/putin talking points and buzzwords. remember trump immediately fired comey after he won, comey thought trump would stand against russia, did he not notice he was always standing with him.

u/Treczoks@lemmy.world · 99 points

It is considered widely as one of Putins biggest successes in driving a wedge into Europe. Remember how much money of the "Leave" campaign came from Russian sources.

u/Naich@lemmings.world · 77 points

The Leave campaigns were largely funded with Russian money, and there were massive pro-brexit disinformation campaigns by Russia on social media. So, not caused by, but massively aided by Russians. Very much like Trump - both projects designed to cause division in Western countries.

u/homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 39 points

Brexit was one of several military psychological operations to undermine western political power under CambridgeAnalytica / SLC.

https://www.ted.com/talks/carole_cadwalladr_this_is_what_a_digital_coup_looks_like/transcript

And yes, the russians were all in on it.

u/Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee · 26 points

It was funded by & clearly (since day 1 of the first talks) mostly if not solely a benefit to Russia.

Never forget how ads work on *everyone*. It's just how our brains are wired.

u/nogooduser@lemmy.world · 16 points

They didn’t cause it, no.

David Cameron caused it by adding it to the Conservative party manifesto to help them get reelected.

I’d be surprised if Russia didn’t at least attempt to influence the referendum in favour of Brexit. They have been interfering in elections for years and Brexit would be beneficial to them as it made both the UK and the EU weaker.

u/jordanlund@lemmy.world · 8 points

A couple of points:

1) Yes, Russia was involved in the social media propaganda:

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/article/how-svetlana-and-friends-took-to-the-brexit-cause-fcb3bd0db?region=global

2) The voters had precious little idea what it was they were actually voting on:

https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/06/24/480949383/britains-google-searches-for-what-is-the-eu-spike-after-brexit-vote

u/BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world · 20 points

Obviously, because Brexit was just fueled by lies and propaganda spread on Meta platforms and twitter to fuel enough anti-european sentiment to leave the Union. They appealed to their sense of "greatness" with disinformation in order to separate one of the only nuclear powers there and the most militarily prepared. UKIP gets their money from the same place all the far-right groups all over the world do. The Heritage Foundation. That's what all the talk about invading Canada and Greenland is about, split NATO forces so there's less support for Ukraine.

u/vegetvs@kbin.earth · -100 points

Ah ok, so Brexit was caused by _Russians_ now. I thought it was caused by the people who voted to leave the EU.