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AfD files lawsuit against German spy agency's extremist classification

c/world · u/solo@slrpnk.net · 130 points

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A German court said on Monday that far-right party Alternative for Germany had filed a lawsuit challenging the domestic intelligence agency's decision to classify it as an extremist organisation.

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u/LordWiggle@lemmy.world · 1 points

It's also funny how they get offended by being a called a nazi and then confirm they are a nazi: "I'm not a nazi, I just think all foreigners don't belong here and deportation is proper solution. We whites have a birth right, they just don't belong here." - ok Adolf, there there.

u/sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech · 4 points

Nazis really don't like it when you point out that they're Nazis. It's very strange, given how much room "Pride" and "Honor" take up in their ideology.

u/Excrubulent@slrpnk.net · 10 points

See that would require them to not be nazis and the problem with that is that they're fucking nazis.

u/Buffalox@lemmy.world · 8 points

No that's not what I mean, their base probably doesn't give a shit. But if they lose the case, it validates the report more than the agency can ever do themselves, and it can be used against AfD in other situations too. It may also justify it for parliament to ban the party.

u/barsoap@lemm.ee · 9 points

They tried that before, the Verfassungsschutz will say, publicly, something along the lines of "Two of these 500 quotes are from our moles". That way they protect their sources, vanishing in the general soup, while the court can see that it's party sentiment, not something injected into the party by the Verfassungsschutz. Judges will be able to see the whole uncensored thing one way or the other though it might not necessarily the judges actually judging the case: There's special in camera senates in high courts for when some agency really doesn't want to show stuff. They can look at absolutely anything, and all they have to judge is "yep, it was indeed 2 of 500 quotes".

u/Buffalox@lemmy.world · 6 points

I'm no expert here, but the 1100 page report is confidential AFAIK, and I don't think the court will demand that to be handed over.

The agency will probably present evidence in a way that doesn't compromise agents. I would be surprised if it can't be done with publicly available information.

u/CptBread@lemmy.world · 4 points

Well they could also use it for trying to get what kind of sources the agency has... That and to be able to lean even more on to the far rights persecution complex...

Though I do hope you are more correct than me here...

u/Buffalox@lemmy.world · 65 points

Excellent, I'm pretty sure the agency has evidence to back up their claim, so it's almost 100% certain IMO that AfD will lose, and the claim will be confirmed in a court of law.

AfD is digging their own grave here.

u/Treczoks@lemmy.world · 33 points

So Nazis don't want to be called Nazis? Have they tried not to behave like Nazis for a change?

u/LordWiggle@lemmy.world · 4 points

That's a rather extreme response isn't it?

It's not a label, it's a classification. You can only get a different classification when you do not fit this current classification. So don't be a fucking nazi.