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Carney’s Liberals beat Conservatives, CTV News declares, will form minority government

c/world · u/MicroWave@lemmy.world · 320 points

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Mark Carney led the Liberals to a narrow victory on Monday in an election dominated by issues like affordability, tariffs and annexation threats from U.S. President Donald Trump.

CTV News is declaring the Liberals have won enough seats in the 45th federal election to form a minority government.

As of 11:00 p.m EDT, the Liberals had won or were leading in 156 out of 343 ridings. Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives are set to remain in opposition, with 144 ridings so far. Parties need 172 seats to form a majority.


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u/jellygoose@lemmy.ca · 3 points

Well they pretty much don’t have a choice. The previous government was minority and in coalition with the NDP and help from the bloc.

Grossly put, Îin the Canadian parliamentary system anyone can introduce bills, even the opposition. It is up to the house to vote and decide if it moves forward.

So if the liberals want to advance their agendas their bills need to pass a vote in the chamber. Therefore they need the votes of the bloc.

Another thing to note is that in Canada the party line is stronger than in the US congress meaning most MPs are expected to follow and vote along what is presented by the party.

u/Sturgist@lemmy.ca · 5 points

The even better news is the conservatives lost and that their chief, small ~pp~, also lost his riding.

Oh thank _**fuck!**_

Also, if you bracket something with tildes (~) just one on either side you get the proper spelling of smöl ~pp~!

u/rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 1 points

Thank you for the explanation. Just one follow-up to check if I understood: The minority government would then just include the Liberals but with support from the Bloc Québécois (i.e., the Bloc has the power to veto, but the legislation will still come from the Liberals)?

That seems plausible, although I still wonder why a coalition with the Bloc is then not also on the table (there's probably a reason, I just don't know about Canadian politics).

u/jellygoose@lemmy.ca · 21 points

Yes, we do

Right now it seems like the liberals have a majority win that can be complete with the help of the Bloc Québécois, which is a center-left pro Québec party. It is good news, as the bloc is a tough opposition and will keep them in check. The even better news is the conservatives lost and that their chief, small pp, also lost his riding.

u/NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 2 points

>Do you have two or multiple parties in parliament?

They have two major parties and a whole bunch of minor ones. The Quebecoi Bloc is the biggest, but the New Democratic Party and Green Party also have some seats.

>I was wondering whether a coalition government wouldn't be more advantageous.

It would be, but that's impossible under FPTP.

u/Jhex@lemmy.world · 2 points

Nothing, but they couldn't form the opposition

This minority arrangement is fine as the libs can work with the NDP or the BQ, but if the balance were held by the cons, they'd sink Canada to make the libs look bad

u/cheese_greater@lemmy.world · 9 points

This is honestly the way until there's a better electoral system. Majority governments are not a great thing for the people

u/Jhex@lemmy.world · -1 points

I just explained why. Current conservatives are saboteurs, not opposition

u/NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 9 points

I mean it's natural to not want a conservative government, but why root for a liberal majority and not a liberal minority with progressive parties to provide the remaining seats?

u/Jhex@lemmy.world · 13 points

because the opposition is currently maple maga and they'll shut down the cure for cancer to own the libs

u/jellygoose@lemmy.ca · 8 points

It’s libs + bloc.

Quebec helped deliver more liberal seats than anywhere else in the country. They will have to govern and respect the province which as a québécois is a win for me. That and not being stuck with a small pp.

u/Cenotaph@mander.xyz · 9 points

They have enough for a majority with just libs and ndp as of right now, but we'll see what the morning brings

u/Stovetop@lemmy.world · 13 points

Still seems up in the air. Just looking at the current numbers from CBC, the NDP is only slated to take 8 seats, so it seems like BQ is going to be the one with the cards, assuming the tides don't suddenly shift.

u/FunderPants@lemmy.ca · 39 points

Please give me just enough new dems to get things passed. I wanted a lib majority, but if it's a minority give them enough new dems to work with.

u/rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 16 points

Question for the Canadians: Do you have two or multiple parties in parliament? I'm asking because the article states that a minority government was the goal, and I was wondering whether a coalition government wouldn't be more advantageous.