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c/europe · u/zaxvenz@lemm.ee · 33 points
c/europe · u/zaxvenz@lemm.ee · 33 points
u/tal@lemmy.today · 1 points
Yes?
I'm not saying don't do it. I'm saying that ITER isn't going to make this a near-term thing.
u/Skua@kbin.earth · 1 points
Isn't that exactly the kind of "when old men plant trees under whose shade they know they’ll never sit" that you were advocating for?
u/tal@lemmy.today · 1 points
ITER isn't going to be a commercial service, though. It's another stage in the R&D process.
After ITER happens, assuming no unexpected disruptions, looks like the next planned stage is construction of demonstrators:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEMOnstration_Power_Plant
>This 2012 roadmap was intended to be updated in 2015 and 2019.[30]: 49 The EFDA was superseded by EUROfusion in 2013. The roadmap was subsequently updated in 2018.[31]
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>* Conceptual design to be complete before 2030
>* Engineering design 2030-2040
>* Construction from 2040
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>This would imply operations commencing sometime in the 2050s.
General commercial service would be at least a phase after that.
So it's going to be a while. I mean, I'm not saying that there won't be anyone alive using commercially-generated fusion electricity who remembers the year 2025, but it's not going to be a near-term thing. Fusion power generation requires taking a long-term view.
u/CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 14 points
I didn't say we shouldn't invest in or continue to research it. But it's not a solution (or even part of one) for anything in the foreseeable future.
u/Skua@kbin.earth · 1 points
The biggest fusion reactor in the world is being built in France right now, with the EU as the leading funder
u/tal@lemmy.today · 16 points
On one hand, it's true that there will be no near-term return. On the other hand, if nobody makes the investment because it is a large project, then it will never happen.
>A society grows great when old men plant trees under whose shade they know they’ll never sit.
u/CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 42 points
Sure. Maybe in twenty to thirty years. As it's always been for the last fifty to seventy years.
u/trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 9 points
Fusion reactors for power generation are a true technology of the future, as they have always been, and will always be just 30 years into the future.
u/abbadon420@lemm.ee · 4 points
This has always been a truth
u/Gladaed@feddit.org · 1 points
Didn't know fusion energy was a photovoltaics company. Guess that makes sense judging from the name.
Hope they deliver a lot of TWh/annum by next year.