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They draft this amount of conscripts twice a year for the last several decades - nothing unusual here and absolutely not related to the war.

It wasn't the kind of deal he had a choice in

Prigozhin wasn't going to Moscow to overthrow Putin, just Shoigu and Gerasimov.

As soon as Putin made the call, the whole thing was over.

He chose to accept the deal, tho

He didn't choose, Putin made a deal with him and killed him 2 months later

And he chose to stop. He was pretty much at red square already.

Wagner had less than 20k

...and they may as well have been recruits


Haha, imprison me all you want, my countrymen can summon me any time!

Any time now...

Will he appear like beetlejuice? Because I could go the The Hague and summon him.

I don't want to. You can say it three times instead.

Really?! I always thought p\*tin was French for b\*tch.

You can say Putin here. No double speak required.

They've been drafting this amount of conscripts twice a year for the last several decades: nothing unusual here, not related to the war - would've happened anyway

They don't want to attack kremlin, like they actually love p*tin.

Sure. Wagner failed on that, but new recruits would do much better!

People read headlines only, that’s a fact, just look around (like Lemmy in general). Simultaneously headlines fight for your attention because that’s the only chance to show you more ads. This is an incredibly toxic combination even if it looks okay on paper. People are kind of dumb but that’s more of a character flaw that we all share. We need to be a bit more aware of that because there’s no cure without a proper diagnosis.

These 160K will not be sent to Ukraine. They are used for maintenance, logistics and such. They are doing this every year to replace the 160K conscripts that are done with their 12 months of military service.

This has nothing to do with the war in Ukraine. Russia has been drafting people for military service twice a year for decades. This is how countries with conscription systems work. Finland does the same thing.

I don't think they kidnapped half a million ivans off the street lol

What do you mean?

The headline is not clickbait. It's literally just reporting the news. The story beneath it is not sensationalist, it puts the number in context better than you did.

you're right, but i still think the EU should arm itself at least to the point of being capable of self-defence.

it's not only about waging war, it's also about deterrence, and giving Europe some self-confidence.

Really? Because 160K doesn't seem like much at this point. I'd probably be wanting the world to not find out I need yet another chunk of guys and all I can do is 160K because all the others have completely failed and shit's getting low.

Doing this after the report came out yesterday that there has been talk of them testing a NATO country, that would absolutely match your claim of this being saber rattling. It's totally in his best interest to look especially tough right now, more so with Germany showing strong mobilization the past few weeks.

He's missing about 320.000 soldiers for his summer offensive. Interesting.

In 2011 the draft was for 218000: http://www.kremlin.ru/acts/bank/32869/

That makes sense

160k Russian troops attacking Ukraine = guaranteed death

160k Russian troops attacking the Kremlin = guaranteed win

They should consider their options


Important detail you might miss. Conscription is not mobilisation. This conscription is biggest in some time but not that much. Euronews and other media know this is clickbait.

Putin did this to sow fear in Europe - he knows media will do everything for the clicks. Politicians who base all of their decisions on polling („centrists”) will act accordingly. This is how we are played.

It’s the N^eoliberalism^ word being at fault for all of this again.

Sounds like Vlady is really taking the peace talks seriously. I'm sure he just need 160k peace keepers to help rebuild. He's a super reasonable guy.