Of all the takes, this is the most technocit one.

Some people have noted that it's very likely she doesn't have "4 days to live". It's more likely she's heavily on pain meds and was told "if you don't start dialysis or get a kidney transplant, you will die in 4 days" and in her state misheard it. She's a young healthy person and renal failure doesn't work like that.

I lived *removed*

https://i.imgur.com/ueuoZwZ.jpeg

Lol I’m glad at least a few people did, granted if you search imperial classic florida fit you just get hitman, so

I’ve since edited my comment for additional clarity


/c/LostLemmings ?

She's self reporting 4 days while posting to social media, so take it with a grain of salt.

In a local article, her dad mentions that she's depressed which might affect her judgement

Yeah that sounds oddly specific.


Edit: since very few people got this reference, these are some of the watches of the character Agent 47, implying that her death is planned considering they are mentioning an exact day when it occurs

Yeah, that is odd,but patients often do not understand their caretakers in these situations. The four days is actually a classical "lore" patients understand when they are told that they need dialysis - "if you don't have dialysis now,you will be dead within four days".

But let's start from the beginning:

• With a high velocity high mass rear impact one would expect massive if not fatal neck injuries as the primary trauma. Even if her car was not yet "fully stopped" and still moving everything above a delta-v (difference in velocity) of 30km/h usually has these injuries as their primary trauma.

• Renal failure from rear collisions can have two causes: Either direct damage to the kidneys or due to Rhabdomyolysis - basically a large enough tissue damage to overwhelm the kidneys. Now, this is the first thing that is strange: While both would definitely been possible for a crash as described, the conditions for them to occur are quite special. The kidneys are fairly well guarded within the body and in rear collisions the construction of the car seat also does protect them. The resulting impact has to overcome these "protections" and therefore has to be quite substantial - and then is extremely unlikely to be isolated. With a very very high chance it goes along with major spinal injuries,often also thoracic and other abdominal injuries. That seems not to be the case here.

So that leaves Rhabdomyolysis as a possible cause. But this would require a major tissue damage (e.g. like a leg being trapped for ages,etc.) & which sure can happen,but again that is not very likely here and would be much more of a concern for her in that case.

• A bit suspicious is also the photo. It must have been taken shortly after the incident based on the state of the bruises and her clothing. Additionally we find the black substance on her face that could very likely be sooth from a airbag, even though the positioning of it looks very much unlike every sooth I ever saw and the amount of it is rather big, indicating a aftermarket or old airbag.

Furthermore the lone ECG dot is a bit suspicious as well - the positioning is plainly wrong for the kind of ECG used in trauma(a six lead ECG which requires four dots in different positions) and for monitoring purposes. And while it could be a (badly placed) left over from a 12 lead ECG, it brings us to the question while there is no 6 lead ECG being seen - a renal failure patient very likely would have been monitored this way, especially shortly after such a crash.

(There is something white further down that might or might not be another dot)

(Not to speak of things like central lines, peripheral lines, a Sheldon shock catheter or even a endotracheal tube,,etc.)

Additionally this is clearly not a ED stretcher but a more permanent full nursing bed.

• All emergency patients in the Perth Metro region are transported by St. John Ambulance. They are very strict about their trauma bypass rules - all major trauma patients are to be transported to the Royal Perth hospital (who have clarified that they haven't seen her) or as a backup to Fiona Stanley or Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital. Only if patients are assessed as minor to moderate on scene or they are so critical that they won't make it there they go to the other hospitals. They are really strict about it, believe me.

So...that is kind of strange.

Now, of course, patients get undertriaged and might not be end up in the Royal. Let's look at what the alternatives are. Fiona Stanley and Charlie's both are equipped with everything they would need to treat so the transfer she mentioned would not have been needed. Neither is the geographically most likely option (Joondalup) as they have their own renal service. The next option would be Midlands, they have no nephrology indeed, but they work with the large Fresenius Center Midlands- and it's higgly unlikely that they would even have accepted her as a patient as they are known to be "trauma averse" and the Royal isn't too far away. Armadale has a nephro service, so do Rockingham (ICU only,though)and Peel/Mandurah.

There is literally no hospital within the greater Metro area, even the closer country hospitals have renal services (Northam and Bunbury).

Of course there always could be the possibility that she was transferred due to a sole nephrological condition (trauma would have ended in the Royal again),but that is somewhat unlikely. (For the outsider: There is only two fully private hospital which accept emergency patients - Hollywood who has renal, and Murdoch who doesn't but is directly next to Fiona Stanley and therefore unlikely)

• She claims to have been transferred to a "urology" department - urology has nothing to do with the kidneys in that regard unless the ureters are damaged, everything else is part of Nephrology, vulgo renal service. But patients indeed misunderstand that from time to time, so not a point against her.

Now, that's for what we know or can somewhat base on facts.

Let's guess a little what might have happened:

• Scenario 0: She is correct all along and took a photo at the right time, was incredibly lucky but gave different details about the accident for some reasons.

• Scenario 1: She indeed had a little accident. Happens. She was transported to one of the smaller hospitals due to the fact that she wasn't that injured. They found out that she has a kidney condition for other reason by chance and either she or her spoksperson exaggerated the whole situation for some reason or another.

• She is the victim of an attack (kicking into ones kidneys can lead to renal failure easily) and has been "silenced" in some way or another and this is her way of telling her attacker that she will fall in line and shut up.

• The whole story is badly faked and has been done in some other hospital or nursing home setting for some reasons we cannot know. Attention? Mental health issues? A cover story? Who knows.

Not sure about the pic being questionable. Hard to look up local news about the incident without knowing the city where it happened. Searches with her name only call up versions of this story. If there were no school children on board it probably wouldn't make the news otherwise.

There are crashes from 2024 and 2022 which involved children.

Looks like we just have to wait to see the story get fleshed out.

Edit: She lives in north Perth. There was a school bus crash reported on March 28 with no injuries. Other recent crashes seem to be other types of buses.

Second Edit: The BBC has also been looking into it and found no matching incidents (so far). Starting to seem like some info is twisted. Her spokesperson did not confirm the terminal diagnosis.

Very odd.

Add to that not being able to confirm what medical facility she is in.

Maybe she already had a fall out of a second story window but sometime didn't get the cover story correct.

Bad April fools?

It would be a powerful message to other would-be whistleblowers. "It might take a decade but if you oppose us, you will eventually pay the ultimate price".

Absolutely correct. The truth that's already out there is disgusting enough, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Andrew_%26_the_Epstein_Scandal

https://theconversation.com/prince-andrew-the-monarchy-has-a-long-history-of-dismissing-womens-suffering-165927

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58871849

Writing that the royals paid someone to crash into this woman's car with almost no details about the crash is misinformation. It easily spreads. We need to make social media more fact-based wherever it's in our control.

If I were the bus driver and this were an accident, I'd be worried about what conspiracy wackaloons might do to get revenge. Andrew is a lot harder to touch than some middle class Australian bus driver.

If you didn't like someone threatening a pizza restaurant, then you should be a bit more restrained about a story like this.

Already people are taking the lack of reporting of the crash even happening as evidence of a cover up.

Yes; the royal family does leave a poor taste in one's mouth, generally.

I’ve only heard them called motorways in the UK. It’s obviously pretty close to equivalent of course.

Is the M1 not considered a freeway? I've never driven in the UK, only trains everywhere.

Fair enough, I only ask because from everything I've seen if the UK, towns/villages and even smaller cities seem to be a lot more condensed and walkable than here in the states.

Not in rural areas.

Yea generally, no real need for them

Aren't most of y'all's schools typically within walking distance in your neighborhoods?

Yea I think its likely it happened there as the speed was given in kph, we still mostly use mph in the UK and I could be wrong as I'm not a parent but I'm not aware of "school buses" really being a thing here. We didn't have them when I was a kid outside of coach services being brought in for school trips but that was quite some time ago.

She lives in Australia, so the crash may have happened there.

I don't live in the UK but I do drive school bus and we go up to 70 on the freeway. Some districts limit to 60 but that can very often be more dangerous because of the traffic around.

I dunno. Growing up in the 1980s, my school bus drivers did stuff that should have landed them in prison.

Like, none since there are no freeways in the UK.

Why was a school bus going 68mph? Especially in the UK where much less time is spent on freeways.

It's in poor taste to speculate about blame with very little information.

I mean honestly, why would you at this point? Damage's already been done, drawing attention to her again would only make things worse.

This seems a bit odd.

A) Nobody knows where or when this crash happened, which supposedly involved a school bus hitting her at 110km/hour? I feel like that would make some news.

B) It's an Instagram post with only a single picture that looks... questionable??

I'm wondering if she is trying to disappear after threats were made to her. Or maybe this is a real thing that didn't make the news because the royals were involved and had it hidden.

Poor girl just got Princess Dianaed.

How on earth would they know she has 4 days to live? The article says renal failure. Dialysis is a thing. Seems vague and fishy.

Would it be in poor taste to suggest the bus driver who caused the crash was possibly paid or otherwise coerced to do so? Accidents happen, to anyone, but still...

Note for medical accuracy: often, renal failure can be compensated for with dialysis and life prolonged until a transplant is found.

After a trauma like a car crash, there might be other issues that prevent some treatment, however.

Basically, despite the headline, I will say that I hope she lives and finds a donor.

Cars are death. Literally murdering people and the planet.

🤔

So she's dying and still finds it important to share all this on social media. We are doomed as species.