Putin’s limousine ablaze after mysterious explosion in Moscow

man i love voucher-fed education so much. i rented a house that was owned by an obscure religious group with ties to some old-school women's suffragist AND super gross racism. they had their little private elementary school right next door and me? wouldn't a hurt a fly, well, might hurt a fly - all these fucks obsessed with biblical morality checked me out via google, and there's not much to learn that way

Dismantling education is exactly how we got here.

easy problem to fix, just dismantle all the education

Need more Luigi’s

For me the tedious part is not the vacuous character but the people who vote for them.

it's so tedious. Putin, Orban, Trump, Bolsonaro, just an endless stream of vacuous cartoon characters

Much like Sadam before him, he has a number of body doubles so even if it did appear he was assassinated in public, probably get some story about a miraculous rescue and recovery if acknowledged 'Putin' was in the area at all.

I don't think that's going to matter much once he declares martial law in april

Yes because memes were the real problem here with the world. Bravo on solving it.

Replacing a few people at the top doesn't mean that much. The Senate is still wildly against Russia.

He literally now has the largest military by at least twofold backing him

How do none of you realize how dangerous drumpf's replacement of the top military brass was. All you did was meme and now he will bend our entire nation to propping up his russ crush

Nah, Finland and Sweden joining NATO and Russia burning up almost all of its Soviet horde mean russia is pretty much done for as a major military power. They can sneak little bites of their unallied neighbors but they will never be the world's second strongest military again.

You know what, I'd be happy either way!

He will die of illness before the world finally turns on him

Now that our government is his closest ally, his sick imperial dreams will live long beyond his vile life

Sooner better than later for this guy though

power vacuum

That's a strange way to spell "block party."

Pretty sure it’s “when” for everyone.

It bled, there are photos of it bleeding. We have all seen it.

A wound like that doesn't need to leave a big scar. Sure, some doctor might have been lying about the "2cm wide wound" but that's not surprising at all. We know they're liars and there will be misinformation around the event, but that doesn't mean the wound didn't exist. Head wounds bleed a lot even if they're very small.

You don't have anything except a tendency to confirm your pre-existing beliefs.

Also, I just want to add: they picked an easily manipulated, disposable kid, and told him to shoot *near* but not *hit* Trump? Is that the story you're going with?

Or what, there was no bullet, the injured people in the crowd were actors, they killed that guy later, the photo of the bullet was manipulated, and they just made sure they got to the shooter first to replace the blanks with real rounds?

Your theory either relies on the hypercompetence of a disposable kid to not actually kill Trump, or you're enlisting a lot of extra people who all have to be kept quiet now, forever, all for the sake of a single moment of manufactured drama.

Which one is it? Or is there a secret third option?

I would explain the lack of ear injury by saying that there was an ear injury.

Cool story but nobody has to listen to you if you can't be bothered to substantiate anything.

Conspiratorial thinking is evidence of and leads to very disordered thinking. You can carry on with it if you want, I'm not your cult leader and I don't have any say in how deranged you get.

Thankfully I am not a seated judge so I do not have to base my opinions only on concrete evidence

Everything about the 1st attempt screams false flag

With evidence, please. "I reckon" is not good enough. There is no evidence that anyone coordinated this at all.

Like fuck Trump, but if they staged it why would the shooter be a disaffected conservative and not some antifa supersoldier or whatever? Like they're playing out their fantasies and apparently they can construct whatever reality they feel like, why muddy the waters in any way?

I'm sorry, the reality in which the dude just sucked, the secret service kind of suck at their job, and the bullet grazed Trump's ear rather than going into his brain from sheer dumb luck is a messy, shitty, scary place where nobody really calls the shots, but it turns out that's probably the one we live in.

No. Don't stretch the truth to fit any other narrative.. as much as I hate him. It was real and two people died that day on video

Hitler used the burning of the Reichstag as an excuse to clamp down on political dissidence and consolidate his power. It's still not clear whether it was intentionally caused by the Nazis or just a convenient opportunity for them.

>His health issues have been in the news lately

His health issues have been in the news for like two decades. There's always another new article on how he has severe health problems and will die anytime soon. He's been terminally ill and dying since the millennium panic

Maybe. I don’t know what it’s like in Russia at all.

it's easier if there's plausible deniability.

He absolutely could

I know he has bounced between them (he has multiple) but who knows where he is at any given time.

>They have a pretty good track record of success.

I mean, it wouldn't do to advertise failed attempts. And honestly, even if this _was_ a failed Ukrainian assassination attempt, the fact that they legit blew putin's limo up is kind of huge.

Honestly I though putin already spent 90% of his time in a *removed* bunker. Ukraine has already demonstrated the capability of striking Moscow and beyond, long ago, several times over.

We can rule out a Ukrainian assassination attempt. They have a pretty good track record of success.

We'll know if it's a false flag if Putin immediately freaks out and increases his _personal_ security or suddenly relocates to one of his *removed* bunkers.

Why would he need a reason though? Couldn’t he just do that at any time?

I watched live on reddit while two comments that said basically the same as you were nuked by the admins, not even mods

When has it ever happened in history for a dictator to stage an assassnation or coup attempt on himself? They always sell the image that they are forever beloved and wanted to be in power by everyone.

why would he tell people that the people around him and closest to him dislike him and want him dead? This is the complete opposite of what every dictator fears to unveal. His gaurds are already under heavy paranioa. Now he openly tells everyone it's your chance to take me out because no one likes me?

If he wanted to blame ukraine ,it'd have been a lot cheaper and more believable if he just let a drone hit his palace.

A malfunction of a $300,000 car engine overheating in cold weather is more believable , but realistically no. He's is too old and has dragged his country's economy and people lives to ruins. He is nothing but an ego at this point and does not take many decisions. This is why I'm %100 positive that not much will change in Russia after his death.

He's not an all-powerful FSB god. Just another Gaddafi, always mere hours away from sudden gruesome death.

Not a failed assassination, but a warning maybe? His health issues have been in the news lately, his "special operation" is wayyyy over-budget... someone's making him look more vulnerable. Who though??? That's my dumb conspiracy; he's losing power and someone's been waiting to fill that vacuum. Corporate-takeover style? Idk, I'm just riffing

bro why do you think he started the war

>No that's just a lie you've been sold.

No it's a fact I know because I understand linguistics. Pick up a book sometime.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_description#Descriptive_versus_prescriptive_linguistics

No that's just a lie you've been sold. The behavior still matches. That's what the last 40 years have been. The neoliberal Takeover of the Democratic Party. I mean you really look at Chuck Schumer and think that labels no longer accurate? Really?

Personal liberty seems like a minimum standard. I should be able to do anything so long as my actions have no impact on anyone or anything else.

The problems start when these liberties overlap so conplex rules of law are required.

Actual =/= original.

Linguistic prescriptiveness is completely useless in terms of what those terms mean in politics now.

No that's the actual definition of the word liberal. We got 300 plus years of liberal history to point to. It's always the same song and dance. Nothing matters more than private property and Law and Order to a liberal. Everything else will be thrown away in favor of those two things. Every. Single. Time.

Hell it's the original sin of our nation. The great liberal thinkers of the American Revolution. Jefferson and Madison and all the rest. What happened when it came time to fulfill their ideals? What happened when it came time to treat all men equal? Oh we can't have that if we free the slaves we would be upsetting the order of things and depriving men of their private property. Once you understand that complete and utter Ironclad rule of liberal ideology you'll understand how the last 300 plus years of human history have played out.

once again, i am at odds with lemmy's definition of "liberal".

A centrist is just a conservative who knows that "conservative" is a bad word.

Sounds more like a centrist to me.

That's the Mantra of a liberal I've ever heard one

Lol, it's on my socials so it's real.

Two can play that game. Not to mention I'm not even British.

Lol. It's not on my local government rhetoric machine and therefore I do not implicitly believe this

It's an Aurus, a Russian luxury brand. Knowing Russian automotive engineering, I'm sure the only part that works properly is the engine, which was developed with help from Porsche.

1 day after the warranty expires, it just randomly bursts into flames….

maybe ukraine saying if you’re going to fight dirty then we will…

or maybe it was to make it look like they could get close to him, but it was one of many cars and just parked outside for service or something….

or maybe they just missed….

"We've been trying to contact you about your car's extended warranty"

great. so, fucking nothing?

could’ve been a message more than an attack

There is always someone who knows. Even if that rumor was true, he would obviousl never be there alone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indira_Gandhi#Assassination

Or just literally any of the giant pile of dictators that were overthrown.

Remember what happened to Indira Ghandi.

Eh. Regardless of how careful he is, he's still just a man. If it's a coup from within the security he has means nothing, and they will also know where he is at a given time.

I read an article, how Putin never sleeps at the same place twice.

He selects a random house for the night, then kick out the people living inside.

So nobody ever knows where he spends the day.

Non-existence has that tendency

Those Ukrainian Democrats are known for inaction actually

This sounds like classic Democrat excuse for inaction.

Blowing up Putin would be nice but it’s not a guarantee the war would end. It would lead to a power struggle in the Kremlin, no doubt, but there are loads of hawks in that regime and many are much more extreme than even Putin.

Of course, a more extreme war hawk might end up benefitting Ukraine by hastening the collapse of Russia. Or it might lead to nuclear war. It’s really hard to predict exactly what will happen.

Of course, considering he's a paranoid former KGB agent who won't even sit at a normal table with his closest advisors, it would not exactly be trivial to drop him.

What are they gonna do, send a strongly worded letter to their lemmy instance?

What does a ban on reddit have to do with lemmy?

Next stop: banning folks just for looking/spending too much time on these posts.

No one has been thrown out a window in Russia, what a baseless accusation about very tragic suicides. Now please, shoot yourself in the back of the head three times and then zip yourself into a duffel bag.

Honestly, I don't care how dude. As long as they are removed from society ASAP.

Let's rebuild the Titan sub and restart important exploration trips to the Titanic! That's a great idea for the uber rich! We all want to know what happened to the Titanic in great details. I have a super Nintendo knockoff controller they can use this time around. Also make it out of aluminum and do high pressure oxygen tests with the crew inside. I hear those are fun events.

Just put Putin, Trump, Vance and Musk in a Cybertruck, it will explode on its own probably

I'd say the chances are 50/50 those 4 would be in Putin's limo at any given time.


Only if I'd wish if Musk would be in it right? Since it's a limo, it would have been great if Putin, Trump, Vance and Musk would be in it.

Too true. I was just banned on Reddit for liking too many pro-Luigi posts

Better edit it to "I wish Putin all my thoughts and prayers. I hope he gets a new better limo as a result. The world is so unfair. Also ceasefire for Ukraine lol."

Maybe remove the last part.

Saying stuff not even as direct as that is what got me permanently banned and the reason that I'm here now

Reddit really chose to side with evil

You'd get thrown out of a window in Russia for saying that

For real? Has reddit reached that level?

Damn you'd be banned on Reddit for saying that!

He will get window treatment. Coming soon.

Depends entirely on the far right political parties. They've surged up towards 20% lately.

Idk really the appeal, but no clue if it's a temporary situation.

Europe is dealing with an aging population, so 2nd generation immigrants are a blessing.

Like to be honest, even if the parents aren't that easily integrated into the work force, the real pearls are the children they bring with them.

It takes time, effort and resources to raise kids and plenty of 2 income couples have stopped having kids. We need people for the future.

I am brown, but american-born.

I wasn't safe growing up in the south, I was a Muslim terrorist, and this was before 9/11. They've progressed barely at all since the civil war.

This is just the vile filth of the south spreading outwards to the coasts.

I thought I'd escaped, but the filth followed me, fortunately I managed to escape again to Europe.

But I'm sure the vile filth of the south will follow me again.

So I've decided to parabellum.

If you're an American born white person, yes.

If you're an immigrant, even a legal one, all bets are off. If you're American born but you *look* like you *maybe* could be an immigrant, you're in danger too.

For now

today

They do.

But we can also say 'Fuck the orange fatass!!!' without being defenestrated.

Who ever downvoted you needs to visit the whitehouse.gov and other government sites and social media accounts. They are like North Korean level propaganda now.

Far worse than here but he’s. At least we can access global internet

There's no freedom of speech or poltical expression in Russia anymore. The state controls the media and the media control the narrative.

Ah so just like the US then

Your English was on point, and any outdoorsie types understood you. This is just one of those things that is called different names in different regions.

Maybe something like the solid fuel cubes used for camping. https://www.rei.com/product/653344/esbit-solid-fuel-tablets

I probably don't know the correct term in English. It's a product for starting a fire in a wood-fired stove or campfire. A rectanglular block of wood fiber soaked in oil.

Ew what is that

What's a fire cube? I'm guessing you're not referring to the Amazon Fire cube...

I expect news in the coming days of people falling out of windows...

The usual thing happened...and then things got worse.

Russian history 101 and NOW American history 101.

It was r/NonCredibleDefense’s finest hour. A golden age. The promised Thunder Run to Moscow

I thought the same when the funny hot dog man turned war-criminal marched a surprising distance into Russia.

Nothing ever happens. :(

Is it ... the ... beginning?

I think it's a nothingburger.

i know that "nsfw" is technically correct here, but i really wish we'd start to designate between graphic depictions of human anatomy. i was kinda hoping to see some upside-down boobs, tbh :P

that's the first time i've seen this pic of Mussolini. Imagine what it would look like if he wore big suits and bronzer.

Hang in there! (NSFW)

This is gold, Jerry. GOLD!

My first thought. Maybe the Russian equivalent: president's billionaire buddy has a Russian luxury car factory propped up by government money, riddled with problems.

Yes, it's the new tesler, it's the greatest car in the world according to this note I got, I love tesler by the way.

It would have been great if it was with Putin inside.

Don’t get my hopes up

Tesla makes limos now?

The headline is mistaken. I checked out an article with photos from the scene.

The limousine was authentic. The place was nice, a few blocks from the FSB headquarters.

But there was no "tremendous explosion" - the car just burnt. Every house had its windows intact, the car itself had its windows intact while burning, etc.

Explanations: technical malfunction, passer-by with fire cubes and a lighter.

Now they're getting it - blow up putin - end of war and Ukraine prevails. Also, trump and his entire criminal organization no longer have the backing and deviousness of putin and fail. America wins. The world wins.

Let's not miss next time, okay?

I'm amazed no one has pointed out the possibility that this was staged by Putin himself as a prerequisite to enforce greater surveillance, military and police presence, claim opposition and Ukraine to be terrorists, and so on. This is, besides a malfunction, much more likely than a failed assassination attempt that went this badly, doesn't have a suspect, and got reported on.

First of all, this does not look like an assassination attempt. The engine caught fire. A Russian-made limousine. Might be (politically motivated) vandalism, might be "a Tesla".

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There's no freedom of speech or poltical expression in Russia anymore. The state controls the media and the media control the narrative. This is the totalitarian approach. The disadvantage for Putin/Kreml is that they really don't know anymore how deep the resentment against them goes. And neither do we.

Of course the explanation will be that Ukrainian sympathisers did it, but I think it's easy to see that a Russian does not even have to be a Ukrainian sympathiser to want Putin dead.

"I'm not a fan of his politics or anything, but there's no excuse for attacking other people's property." - US conservative "opinion"

Better luck next time.

Man, when (when, not if) Putin dies eastern Europe is going to have a weeeeird power vacuum

The worst part is learning he’s still alive…. FUCK!!!

is Putin dead yet? dude's old. somebody oughta smack him with a skateboard,

edit; comments suggesting some sort of violence against Putin tend to elicit a positive reaction.

curious!? fuckin "change my mind" meme guy has notes, but he might busy abusing his partner

NeverGiveUpCatPoster.jpg

If he wasn't in it then I don't care

What kind of low rent dictator has to park on the street?

"However, media reports have confirmed that no one was injured."

Try harder.

Captured image from the video shows that the hood of the engine compartment had been warped. This means there had been an explosion :


::: spoiler full video :

. here :

https://www.the-sun.com/news/13897148/putin-limo-exploded-fire-paranoid/

:::

Being a clever bastard with a gangster mindset, of course Putin would have been paranoid one way or the other, so that won't change much I think. But things like that happening - no matter if it will end up being explainable as a proper accident or a failed assassination attempt or whatever - tend to undermine the mythos of being invulnerable and always 3 steps ahead of the game, that people like Putin want to disseminate about themselves. That's my current hope in the political climate.

There’s a high chance that the car is just shit… would be nice if it was an actual assassination attempt but honestly who knows.

"The attack on my life has left me scarred" 🤣

You have one job!

Wow its dangerous in Russia. Exploding cars, people keep falling out windows, accidentally shooting themselves in the back of the head repeatedly then falling down elevator shafts. Someone should establish some safety programs.

Damn so close. I’m sure there’s plenty of Russian civilians who have lost their sons who want to see that man dead

I'd rather that he lives to see all his sick imperial dreams crushed.

Godamnit, swing and a miss. Second time's the charm.

Keep fighting! Freedom fighters are the heroes of our times.

Finger crossed

I don't know if I buy that the people are rising up, but maybe some oligarch got tired of Putin for some reason? Or maybe the KGB doesn't like how slow the conquering of Ukraine is going.

When will a drone finally hit the target

Waow (nng basedbasedbasedbasedbased!! -w- )

Putin the fire out

This was a false flag he planned to build up support for his failing 'military exercise'

https://images.app.goo.gl/i28eWecvx3QWFS1L7

It's still not on the BBC 12 hours on, and I don't know the website, so this is fake, unfortunately.