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EU OS aims to free the European public sector desktop

c/europe · u/SleafordMod@feddit.uk · 127 points

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A guy who works for the EU has proposed (in his spare time it seems - not in an official capacity) that Europe have its own Linux distro for European public sector use.

The plan is to base this distro on Fedora with KDE Plasma. I suppose Plasma is relatively similar to the Windows desktop, so it should be familiar for public sector employees.

Thoughts?


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u/ftbd@feddit.org · 1 points

I'd rather have my tax euros pay them than pay microsoft. Granted, that money being used to employ devs to create a FOSS solution would be even better, but commercial Linux would already be a great first step in the right direction.

u/Buelldozer@lemmy.today · 3 points

Does Linux have a good alternative to ActiveDirectory?

Centralized IAM, managed updates, and all of the other "stuff" that AD does is available for at least some Linux distributions but it's not free to use, at least not commercially. You're going to be paying Red Hat, SUSE, etc for these kinds of features.

u/nesc@lemmy.cafe · 1 points

There can't be _good_ alternative to AD because it's horrible, but yes there is rh idm(freeipa) that combines ldap server, dns server, ntp server, pki infrastructure and sssd.

u/Jesus_666@lemmy.world · 11 points

Vereinheitlichtes Betriebssystem für den Öffentlichen Dienst, also known as VereinhBetrSfdÖD. Rolls right off the tongue.

u/SleafordMod@feddit.uk · 15 points

Who knows. And maybe this proposed project will go nowhere. But it would be cool if the European public sector does end up using Linux on the desktop.

As always, the year of the Linux desktop is just around the corner...

u/nesc@lemmy.cafe · 1 points

No I am saying that there should be sane defaults that are followed.

u/nesc@lemmy.cafe · 3 points

Actually you need leadership and direction so you won't end up in current debian situation where they can't decide on anything where there is three suites of helper utils that do same thing but can't actually mandate usage of one. Where apt-get is still shipped ten years after apt becoming default and so on. It's a mess.

u/MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · -1 points

And I want to know why you think something like Arch linux is "close to corporations" in comparison

u/Saleh@feddit.org · 1 points

i didn't say anything towards Debian being good or bad. I don't know enough about it to make such a judgement. I merely pointed out that ease of maintainability by the end user is not an argument for organizations. As for home use, people who decide to use a Linux distro at home are not the main target here. Again, an organization will make a walled garden for their end users, so similarity ends being a relevant factor past the Desktop GUI. And whether you run Gnome, KDE or a different one does not depend on the distro itself.

u/Saleh@feddit.org · 3 points

I expect institutions and corporations to have an IT department that takes care of these things.

You cannot apply a personal user logic to IT infrastructure of organizations. For such an organization Linux distro the users will never deal with the package manager or any directory outside of /home.

u/MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 1 points

Yes, of course Arch. But ypu're still dodging my question. You were saying other distributions were close to Corpos compared to Debian. We weren't talking about the benefits or drawbacks of specific distros

u/nesc@lemmy.cafe · 0 points

Debian is frankenstein's monster of half-baked things that falls apart and rots. Add to it absolute absence of any leadership and direction, where even smallest decisions take years (mawk/gawk/nawk), shipping broken packages for years, and so on.

u/nesc@lemmy.cafe · 48 points

Suse exists and is european, why would you need _another_ distro?

u/vane@lemmy.world · 7 points

Maybe they start supporting open source instead of making new businesses out of it.

u/ReluctantZen@feddit.nl · 7 points

Why though? Some of the biggest distros aren't even based in the US but rather in Europe.

u/pastermil@sh.itjust.works · 6 points

Great! Let's just make a new one instead of supporting one that's already well developed and widely adopted, which include countless of options. Surely they got time and effort to develop and market it, right??

u/chaotic_disorganizer@lemmy.world · 5 points

Since Europe (especially Germany) likes its acronyms, why not call it EPSos (spoken "app-sauce") for European Publich Sector OS?

u/ICastFist@programming.dev · 2 points

Does Linux have a good alternative to ActiveDirectory? Something where a central server can validate logins, send update commands remotely, integrate it with several other applications so users don't have to create an account for each different system?