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The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans

c/europe · u/SierpinskiDreieck@feddit.org · 270 points

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"I just hate bailing out europe again"

"I fully share your loathing of european free-loading"

(screeneshots in the article)

if any of you were wondering what our "allies" think of us.

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Comments

u/Vincent@feddit.nl · 2 points

They called it the "Rutte doctrine" in the Netherlands, under previous prime minister (and current NATO chief) Mark Rutte, if you need a male example.

u/federalreverse@feddit.org · 2 points

Isn't every top politician keeping part of their professional communication out of such requests at this point? Not just Hillary's #butteremails but I seem to remember instances where Ursula vdL did that, even Merkel texted certain things (definitely [non-sarcastically] just a coincidence that all of the people I named are women).

u/MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 14 points

They don't "protect Europe" they just protect their own economic interests, that happen to coincide with European ones

u/sh00g@lemmy.zip · 38 points

Even more disturbing is that if we have evidence of one Signal chat that must mean they regularly use non-official communications channels to discuss things like this. That means no formal record retention, no safeguards against export control and protection of classified information, and no pathway for transparency. These communications are entirely FOIA proof such that the American people have no way to even attempt to obtain information through legal channels from government officials.

u/truthfultemporarily@feddit.org · 28 points

Up until I read this I thought they were just evil. But no, they are actually morons who really believe that the US protects Europe out of the goodness of its heart.

u/bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 11 points

Yeah. Seeing them post prayer and flag emojis feels just ... weird. They look like caricatures of themselves.

And why do they call Donald "the president"? To distance themselves? Out of respect? Because that's just how you're supposed to do it?

u/fylkenny@feddit.org · 12 points

Last time, when it came out that they're spying on us, it was just a stern "allies don't spy on each other"

u/javiwhite@feddit.uk · 1 points

Id like to think that me pointing out this entire scenario was caused by the UK & US due to their support of Israel made it obvious where I stand on this debate. But apparently not.

As for the pedantry; the language used was not a personal opinion; but rather utilising their own language to draw the subsequent metaphor.

u/NatakuNox@lemmy.world · 2 points

Clean it up... As in commit war crimes and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and Houthi supporters?

u/Vincent@feddit.nl · 72 points

Honestly the biggest takeaway for me is that apparently, they talk like this in private as well. In other words, they do seem to actually believe what they say. Or at least believe that they have to keep up appearances to each other.

u/javiwhite@feddit.uk · 57 points

The irony being that Houthi were attacking predominantly US & UK ships due to their ongoing support of Israel. The US created this problem, and then moan when they have to clean it up. At this point, the US is the world stage equivalent of a petulant child spilling milk on their shirt and then throwing a tantrum.

u/TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee · 15 points

It's sad the some of their biggest reasons to do it, was sothey could say they did something biden couldn't. The time we could trust them is sadly over