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c/europe · u/GreyAlien@lemm.ee · 114 points
c/europe · u/GreyAlien@lemm.ee · 114 points
u/Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org · 4 points
This. They're illusionists. Always watch what the other hand is doing.
u/Obi@sopuli.xyz · 4 points
That's right, they're called 'l'académie française" and every year they update the dictionary with new words, take out old ones etc. The population then promptly ignores all of that and keeps talking however the fuck they want hahaha. But "inclusive writing" was indeed a big topic a few years back from what I gather (I don't live there full time since a long time).
u/monarch@lemm.ee · 4 points
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u/feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world · 1 points
I don't understand how you've reached that conclusion.
What I was saying is that I have more of an issue with the knee-jerk "languages evolve" response than I have with any particular instance of a language actually evolving.
The reason for this is that it has become another thought-terminating cliché which greatly oversimplifies things but is nevertheless trotted out as if it is the be-all and end-all of linguistics. It isn't. Particularly with politicised language.
u/feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world · 2 points
Yes, that's a reasonable take.
u/monarch@lemm.ee · 4 points
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u/nahostdeutschland@feddit.org · 3 points
I think that there are many things to consider here:
u/feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world · -5 points
Fine, I have more of an issue with the inevitably-repeated mantra from every internet linguist when anyone offers any pushback on "correct" grammar, spelling, usage. There must be some equivalent of dialectical tension at play or language wouldn't be stable enough to be usable. There's no moral component in whether language changes or the rate of that change, that's just an emergent phenomenon from that kind of network.
u/nahostdeutschland@feddit.org · 9 points
Let's be honest: That is not "a push-back against semantic drift or spelling alterations". They hate transgender people and diversity and are using every argument they can find to discriminate them.
u/Obi@sopuli.xyz · 2 points
The French did make a huge thing about changing the way they write in recent years to include multiple genders etc, there was a big fuss about it.
u/feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world · -7 points
I should think the push-back against e.g. semantic drift, spelling alterations etc. is also a normal and natural phenomenon, in the sense of language being a usable shared information network. The amount of effort the French put into preserving their language is a particularly extreme example.
u/DmMacniel@feddit.org · 55 points
"The use of non-compliant graphic signs, such as the asterisk (*) and the schwa (ə), is contrary to linguistic norms and risks compromising the clarity and uniformity of institutional communication", the ministry said in a statement.
Oh fuck off Bigots. Language and the written word changes over time, so why try to stop this progress? (this is a rhetoric question and doesn't need an answer as we all already know why)
u/Sibshops@lemm.ee · 22 points
risks compromising the clarity
What a made up argument to fix an issue noone has.
u/ex_06@slrpnk.net · 16 points
“Italy bans” 🙃 I didn’t know that Reuters makes clickbaits
For those wondering: https://www.mim.gov.it/documents/20182/8782792/m_pi.AOODPIT.REGISTRO+UFFICIALE%28U%29.0001784.21-03-2025.pdf/4d39b729-fea8-90be-0a02-ee41ec8a0806?version=1.0&t=1742564939056
Some days ago the premier talked shit about a Manifesto just to make noise about something else and now this
I feel like the political discourse is at a level: dogs running around to take sticks they throw at us, always following never leading…
u/missandry351@lemmings.world · 11 points
Italy going stupid