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People forget the JSF project had a multinational aspect to it.

It's just what they're called so that's what I used.

In a dogfight they’re known to be kind of shit. That’s not their intended mission. They’re supposed to kill things mostly without being seen, as well as serve as a sensor platform. If something gets to the merge with an F-35, IADS has fucked up.

I disagree. War breeds innovation, and while the F-35 is certainly a risk, I am pretty certain they won't get shut down mid flight. That would be a risk to USA operators too.

I think having the RAF, who already *has* the F-35 and experience maintaining and flying them, would be a perfect candidate to see how far the F-35s go before they can't be flown.

I still think they need to replace the F-35, but it might also create incentive for the existing owners to re-engineer vulnerable systems for a significantly better outcome.

Additionally, based on the personalities of fighter pilots I have known, they'd be all sorts of up for this opportunity. If they can get the ability to operate independently of the US, then the rest of the world has Gen V fighters while Russia has none.

Edit: Additionally BAE is one of the major subcontractors on it. I would suspect they can provide a major benefit to it as well.

UK was a tier 1 supporter of the F-35 project and apparently supply 15% of its parts. Its going to be hard to fuck with them about using them.

Don't worry, orders are being canceled as we speak.

It's very much just a reason to try to use a next gen fighter in actual combat, I think they're going to do terrible but maybe I'll be proven wrong.

Ah yes, the F-35 Glorified-Paperweight with the Trumptastic veto on maintenance and critical supplies. Amazing choice for a military operation not approved by the Orangutan-in-chief of the USA.

Oi, you got a licence for that drone?