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Leading US imams and scholars urge Muslim voters to snub Kamala Harris over Gaza

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20911849

By Umar A Farooq in Washington

Published date: 30 September 2024 11:01 BST


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u/Alsephina@lemmy.ml · 1 points

You're currently a genocidal pig supporter. If you don't want to be one, you can stop.

u/Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 1 points

Nah, fuck Trump. The only way I could be seen as a Trump supporter is if you think voting for genocide should be the default.

You're currently batting for genocide, imperialism, climate collapse, and World War 3, but you can stop.

u/davidagain@lemmy.world · -1 points

Well, you go ahead and continue to push the democrats right then. I can't convince you. The outcome of the election will definitely convince the democrats. And I can tell you they will listen to the republican voters before they log on to lemmy.ml because there's so many more of them and they actually vote in a way that affects the outcome.

u/Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 1 points

>You've tied yourself into all kinds of intricate knots. It's simple. If you convince all the people who care about Gaza not to vote, things get worse for Gaza.

I have not. Things will not get worse for Gaza under Trump or Harris, they are fully aligned. Pretending it's good for Palestinians to be murdered because the bombs are sent by a Dem is monstrous.

Plus, I advocate voting, just for PSL or the Greens, anti-genocide parties.

>If only right wing people vote, only right wing policies will win.

Dems are far-right as well, lmao. If you want left views represented, vote for left parties.

>If only right wing policies win, only right wing policies will be offered.

Parties pick policies based on donors, not on the public's opinion.

u/davidagain@lemmy.world · -1 points

You've tied yourself into all kinds of intricate knots. It's simple. If you convince all the people who care about Gaza not to vote, things get worse for Gaza.

If only right wing people vote, only right wing policies will win.

If only right wing policies win, only right wing policies will be offered.

u/Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 1 points

>You seem to think that letting the _more_ genocidal republicans win would encourage the democrats to be _less_ genocidal, which is bizarre.

They are the same. They both support Israel undyingly, Biden is even sending in the troops.

>They move _right_ when they _lose_ to compete with the republicans because the republicans **win** with a right wing strategy.

They move right because that's what their donors want.

>If the democrats won all the time, the republicans would have to move left just to regain power, and the Overton window would move left.

No, they wouldn't. Fascism is Capitalism in decay, both parties are always moving rightward.

>Not voting for the democrats in order to move them left is insanity. They will respond by copying the more successful electoral strategy.

If the Democrats don't want to regain left votes then they are too far gone and we need a revolution.

u/davidagain@lemmy.world · 0 points

You seem to think that letting the _more_ genocidal republicans win would encourage the democrats to be _less_ genocidal, which is bizarre.

They move _right_ when they _lose_ to compete with the republicans because the republicans **win** with a right wing strategy.

If the democrats won all the time, the republicans would have to move left just to regain power, and the Overton window would move left.

Not voting for the democrats in order to move them left is insanity. They will respond by copying the more successful electoral strategy.

u/fubo@lemmy.world · -1 points

You're currently a Trump supporter. If you don't want to be one, you can stop.

u/Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 1 points

Both are genocidal, letting the DNC get away with genocide solidifies their position. That's the logic, that the DNC can get away with literal genocide as long as they aren't the GOP, and in the eyes of Liberals, that's correct.

u/DrBob@lemmy.ca · 0 points

Just bewilderment. Because snubbing Harris will get you Trump. Who's a great friend to Gaza /s. So cui bono?

u/Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 1 points

Incoming anti-Muslim hatred from Liberals in 3...2...1...