Ukraine Must Cede Territory in Any Peace Deal, Rubio Says
c/world · u/Redditsux@lemmy.world · 98 points
c/world · u/Redditsux@lemmy.world · 98 points
u/InvertedParallax@lemm.ee · 2 points
Ukraine should cede all claims to yakutsk.
u/tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 points
I can
u/LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 1 points
I don’t think it will be enough but I’ll be happy to be proven wrong.
u/Maalus@lemmy.world · 2 points
Maybe give them what they need to actually fight instead of trickling it? Ukraines problem isn't manpower or the will to fight or training or whatever. They need artillery, they need tanks. Give them that and Russia gets kicked.
u/InvertedParallax@lemm.ee · 2 points
Decent missiles to knock down Kerch bridge, even start striking deep into Russia destroying all their oil facilities,
And honestly, precision drone strikes for leadership.
Beyond that, we just need to keep increasing the happy number: https://lemm.ee/post/58230564
u/LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · -2 points
But what kind of support are they going to offer that changes the outcome?
u/count_dongulus@lemmy.world · 6 points
I'd rather the war go on until Russia runs out of their remaining money, and then collapses again like in 91.
u/InvertedParallax@lemm.ee · 5 points
I think Europe should step up support.
Russia is Russia, but if we can bleed them of 10, maybe 15 million of their young men we have a real chance at peace for the next century.
u/pennomi@lemmy.world · 0 points
Unless something dramatically changes for the better, I tend to agree. Russia is unlikely to be pushed back far enough to regain that territory without direct help (more than just weapons) from other countries.
u/InvertedParallax@lemm.ee · 1 points
No, we need to cede Florida, Texas and the rest of the south.
But nobody in their right mind would take them, like trying to cede a toxic waste dump, but of people.
u/justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io · 4 points
The great lakes corridor and the west coast can be Canadian.
Mexico takes Texas and whatever else it wants, likely gulf states through to Florida.
u/SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world · 3 points
Canada takes over the East Coast. Mexico takes the West Coast. Texas gets the middle part. By the time Trump is done with the country, there is nobody to resist anyway.
u/orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 points
That's only part of the story. If you want to learn about why they actually went that way, you should dig deeper. Here's the short, extremely simplified version:
As a result, 60+ years later, we have a bunch of ignoramuses in Miami who support the very people who consider us "the help."
Fuck the GOP. (Fuck the Dems, too, but not for that specific thing.)
u/grue@lemmy.world · 3 points
No offense, but that's kind of to be expected since right-wing Cubans would've been disproportionately likely to flee communism.
u/neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 11 points
I doubt Lemmy as a whole is a big fan of Christie, but at least he's able to call out people trying to get bullshit soundbites by memorizing a post-it.
u/orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 points
Makes me ashamed he shares my heritage. My Cuban compatriots in Miami are awful.
u/lka1988@sh.itjust.works · 28 points
Yeah. Rubio is a fucking moron.
u/kescusay@lemmy.world · 35 points
Is... is that real? Is this really the world I live in?
u/NotLemming@lemm.ee · 3 points
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u/thejml@lemm.ee · 5 points
Nah, that’s not very Bigly, so both can fit.
u/scarabic@lemmy.world · 6 points
He’d have to first remove Trump’s cock.
u/baronvonj@lemmy.world · 2 points
Yeah it was like the Howard Dean scream. You could see him getting more and more nervous about it until he finally freaked out and grabbed the water, but such a normal thing to experience.
u/NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 4 points
Which is weird bcz everybody gets thirsty. It's weird the things we focus on. The fact that he's a bumbling moron should be what people talk about, not some extremely mundane human need.
u/baronvonj@lemmy.world · 6 points
His first big exposure to the national spotlight was when he gave the Republican response to one of Obama's State of the Union addresses. And for whatever reason he had insane dry mouth and had to pause his live-on-air speech to grab an off-screen bottle of water and take a drink and for a while that was all anybody associated him with. It kind of killed his momentum as a rising star at the time.
https://youtu.be/dWkjVvoXIS0
u/neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 points
Butt chug?
u/ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz · 96 points
This Marco Rubio?

u/baronvonj@lemmy.world · 33 points
Fuck off and chug some more water, you prick.
u/30p87@feddit.org · 19 points
Seems like russia needs to lose entirely, then. Without russia existing anymore, there won't be a deal.
u/puia@lemm.ee · 14 points
I can’t believe Americans voted for these guys
u/MyOpinion@lemm.ee · 14 points
No.
u/NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 10 points
Why doesn't the U.S. just become part of Canada? Oh... you mean you don't want to give up U.S. territory... funny how that works.
u/MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world · 8 points
Rubio must shove a cactus up his ass, I say.
u/Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world · 6 points
That's Marco "Eichmann" Rubio, ladies & gentlemen
u/Sanctus@lemmy.world · 5 points
Fuck Rubio. Let's get to Washington DC and.mske them cede something
u/LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · -5 points
Honestly while Rubio sucks and it’s not really his place to say this, it’s hard to imagine any peace deal that doesn’t have involve territorial concessions. It’s up to Ukrainians to decide whether that or continuing the war is worse but I just don’t see any other options. Ultimately, Russia has to agree to end the war somehow.