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Trump to revoke legal status for 240,000 Ukrainians as US steps up deportations

c/world · u/paul@lemmy.esquiretheduke.nohost.me · 203 points

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u/queermunist@lemmy.ml · -17 points

Ukraine doesn't seem to give a shit if people are willing, they get forced to fight anyway.

Also, civilians are still useful in war time. Ukraine still has an economy, despite the war. They're needed to run industrial production, logistical support, distribution, transportation, etc.

Many are children, though, and that definitely doesn't help Ukraine.

u/queermunist@lemmy.ml · -5 points

Children definitely won't help Ukraine resist, that's a good point. Women with children can still work, though. Many do, in fact!

u/Barbarian@sh.itjust.works · 6 points

Oh, they absolutely do. As far as I'm aware though, the people Ukraine got out ASAP to any country that would have them were women whose husbands were conscripted and were the caretakers for multiple children.

u/queermunist@lemmy.ml · -6 points

Still, women are able to work and contribute to the war ecobomy. Or do they not let women run industrial machines or drive trucks or staff hospitals in Ukraine either?

u/Barbarian@sh.itjust.works · 5 points

As we all know, women are incapable of fighting. When we fire a gun the recoil breaks all our bones!

I know, military service is the final boss of sexism, but that's still how it is in Ukraine. There's some murmuring they may be expanding their conscription to women of fighting age without children, but it is still the case that women are exempt from mandatory military service.

u/rekabis@lemmy.ca · 9 points

>The only thing this does is disrupt their lives again for no reason.

Conservatism: the cruelty _is the point._

u/queermunist@lemmy.ml · -17 points

As we all know, women are incapable of fighting. When we fire a gun the recoil breaks all our bones!

You're right, though, this is really unfair to the refugees. I'm just saying, Russia doesn't really get anything out of this.

u/Barbarian@sh.itjust.works · 25 points

Not really. These are refugees. Women, children, and disabled people primarily I'd imagine. What's actually going to happen is that after arrival in Ukraine, they'll be moved to Poland/Romania/etc to keep them out of the line of fire again.

The only thing this does is disrupt their lives again for no reason.

u/qprimed@lemmy.ml · 9 points

if unwilling/unable to participate in defense, they are logistically an addition to the civilian population who are directly in harms way and must be defended, housed, fed, etc. this is just one possible issue - I am sure there are others.

u/queermunist@lemmy.ml · -20 points

How does deporting people back to Ukraine help Russia? Wouldn't that just increase their potential to resist?

u/itstoowet@lemmy.world · 9 points

And let me guess, the Russians who fled to America to claim asylum will have their cases expedited and approved.

u/Glitterbomb@lemmy.world · 8 points

Is it time to start modifying houses with hidden basements and attics? It feels like that point in time.

u/Nanook@lemm.ee · 2 points

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